C6 Seats in a Camaro

Ok guys, I've searched on here butI couldnt find anything about people putting C6 seats in our cars only c5 stuff. I have a deal currently pending on a set of base c6 seats in ebony. They dont have airbags, heaters or power lumbar and the passenger side is manual. So heres the deal I dont think I'm going to use the fbody brackets because the c6 uses an entirely different switch system and plastic bezel that bolts to it so I think I'll just modify it to fit the stock mounting holes. With that said does anyone have the stock width and length of the bolt holes for an fbody seat track power and manual? I know the c6 is 14.25" wide but idk about our cars. I'm just trying to get an idea of how I'm going to modify the rail before i get into it. I've already looked into the wiring and I dont really see too much of an issue just to get the 6-way adjusters to work. Worse comes to worse I'll just go to town with a battery and a test light to figure out what's what. If I end up doing this I'll be sure to do a write up and take pics because it seems like vette seats are a popular thing but there is no clear info on how to do them.

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i can't help, but i'd love to see the finished product

Ya no prob like I said I'lll be doing a writeup with pics I'm going to pickup the seats for $275 bucks tomorrow I cant really beat the price its cheaper than having my seats redone plus the ones in my neighbors c6 are comfy as hell. I'm going to try too get Alex (tatertot91) over to gimme a hand with mockup but he always has the amazing ability to show up when I'm tightening the last bolt lol. Some preview pics for you all though... If anyone has the stock track dimension please post them up because i cant tear into my car until next week. I'm open to suggestions so lemme know if you guys have insight on how to mount these

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seat rails for driver still not sure if ill keep em...
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those seatsa look very nice. I wonder if they are more comfy than standard f-body leathers

You can fit anything in anything. I put a set of 2000 trans am seats in my corvette stingray. I have heard of the corvette forum guys also sticking Z06 seats in in their c3 vettes so that being said, You should be able to put the c6 seats in your fbody. I did have to make brackets to fit the seats in out of 1/8" steel. Good luck

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Originally Posted by Z28Nathan

those seatsa look very nice. I wonder if they are more comfy than standard f-body leathers

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Oh trust me if you can go to the stealership and sneak a sit in a c6. I have sat in a few and they offer MUCH better support than my camaro seats are they all out race feeling? No but a lot of people like them and a lot of c5 guys upgrade to these. Even ta seats which are supposed to be great dont hold me in as well as these do... They have great lumbar support even deflated and the bolsters wrap around you well. Thanks badazta I know theyll fit Im just wondering how I'm going to do it in the past Ive just used some aluminum brackets and bolted them to the seat rails to line up with the existing studs but since these are power Im wondering if i can do it. The rails are also quite a bit longer than an fbody's so depending how far back I need the seat to slide i may just cut off some of the rail when I have where I want it to avoid having it stick out too much into the rear of the seat.. And t/a seats in a c3??? Were they a tight fit lol?

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Oh trust me if you can go to the stealership and sneak a sit in a c6. I have sat in a few and they offer MUCH better support than my camaro seats are they all out race feeling? No but a lot of people like them and a lot of c5 guys upgrade to these. Even ta seats which are supposed to be great dont hold me in as well as these do... They have great lumbar support even deflated and the bolsters wrap around you well. Thanks badazta I know theyll fit Im just wondering how I'm going to do it in the past Ive just used some aluminum brackets and bolted them to the seat rails to line up with the existing studs but since these are power Im wondering if i can do it. The rails are also quite a bit longer than an fbody's so depending how far back I need the seat to slide i may just cut off some of the rail when I have where I want it to avoid having it stick out too much into the rear of the seat.. And t/a seats in a c3??? Were they a tight fit lol?

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Hmm i definitely want to see the end result

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Originally Posted by Z28Nathan

those seatsa look very nice. I wonder if they are more comfy than standard f-body leathers

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we rented a C6 for a few days over the Christmas Holiday, C6 seats are an improvemnt over C5 seats and worlds away from F-body seats

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oh it will happen provided i pick the seats up tomorrow as planned i hate my camaro seats especially because i drive 3hrs to college and my back kills me after the drive plus my drivers seat is ripping

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Originally Posted by justinmc978

we rented a C6 for a few days over the Christmas Holiday, C6 seats are an improvemnt over C5 seats and worlds away from F-body seats

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guess i need to find a C6 and sit in it

I was just wondering about this the other day after seeing a set on ebay. I hate my seats too...

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Originally Posted by Z28Nathan

guess i need to find a C6 and sit in it

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while youre at it might as well find one still attached to a C6 and drive it, it's an experience:burnout:

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this seems like a nice project. i cant really complain about my T/A seats but i do need to get em rewrapped.
however i would love to see a set of C6 or 2010 SS seats in my ride too

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while youre at it might as well find one still attached to a C6 and drive it, it's an experience:burnout:

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What he said first my neighbor had a 07 c6 and i did get to drive it and it was a blast next he got a new z06 in black and when he asked me if i wanted to drive i promptly said no i was too scared of wrecking it. The z06 was just a scary machine when he got on it the ls2 felt like a prius lol. But ya the reason Ive waited so long to do this is that these seats are normally around 500-600 however they are real leather but well see how it goes maybe ill start a trend haha

haha hell yeah. if these work out. ill pay ~$500 for newer seats compared to the price to get em rewrapped

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Originally Posted by justinmc978

while youre at it might as well find one still attached to a C6 and drive it, it's an experience:burnout:

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My buddy has a C6Z cammed up down the road..... i wonder..... :nana:

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we only have 2 z's around here. my buds dad has one. he wont let me touch it...lmao

Just a small update guys I picked up the seats today, they look great and the driver side wiring and brackets look like theyll go in without too much hassle. I wont be able to start working on them till thurs but I'll be posting pics and a walkthrough

SEATS ARE IN!!! Overall the job wasnt too bad just time consuming to get the measurements all right, it did require some welding tho in order to not have to drill holes in the floor. A full review and writeup with pics will be up later today or tomorrow

Very interested in seeing how it looks. And, a write up is an added bonus :D

Pics! :D

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can't wait to see this

Here are some teasers until I can get some better ones... http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...5/0d68a0cc.jpghttp://i215.photobucket.com/albums/c...5/2059c215.jpg

Nice! I'm ready to see some brighter pics of this.

damn.

Ya these are from iPhone I'll get better ones tomorrow and post of pics of the fabrication

look like they belong in there looks awesome

what are you going to do about the seatbelts? it'll wrap around your face if it doesn't have the guides....

they look great. almost OEM-like

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Originally Posted by justinmc978

what are you going to do about the seatbelts? it'll wrap around your face if it doesn't have the guides....

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the belts aren't too bad because the seats sit a little higher than the stock Ones do but eventually I'll prolly get the leather sew on ones from 6liter eater seeing as there really isn't a place to mount the old knes

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Originally Posted by redbird555

the belts aren't too bad because the seats sit a little higher than the stock Ones do but eventually I'll prolly get the leather sew on ones from 6liter eater seeing as there really isn't a place to mount the old knes

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good idea, I forgot they sold those...

Ok guys the goal for this install was to leave the original mounting studs in place that way if i ever needed to reinstall the factory seats i could. Upon removing the drivers side you will realize as did I that the factory brackets will not bolt up to the vette ones for one they are about 3/4" off from the studs and the feet are about 18" center to center while the studs are 16" iirc. So start off by setting the seat in the car and hooking up the red and black wire from the vette seat harness into the floor harness of the camar onow you can adjust the seat using the switch. adjust the track where you want the seat to sit once you get that DO NOT move the track. Remove the seat from the car and unbolt the track from the frame to do this you will need to remove the cushion from the seat the instructions for this can be found on google. Once this is don i set the tracks back into the car and used 1" thick steel tubing in the front to adapt the floor bolt pattern to the seat rails and the rear uses a 3/8" steel plate as a cross brace.
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If you notice above the rear of the seat has to be at an angle for it to sit correctly hence the reason for the wooden shim in the pics these were later made out of steel and welded to the plate. This is the reason a straight piece of tubing could not be used for the back like it was up front. Here is the bracket all welded up to the rails, you can see here how it adapts to the front studs with the tubing. After you have had all this welded up do one final test fit and then reinstall the track into the seat and then install into the car for a final time.
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On the passenger side use the same process as the drivers side of removing the rails and cushion on this time you will be reusing the original passenger track. The reason i did this was that it wasnt to far off and the passenger flow simply has too many deviances to remake the mounting brackets. After removing the rails I used some 3/16" steel plate and extended the width of the rails in order to fit the narrower camaro tracks as seen here.
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To mount the rails to these plates i spent a good deal of time getting them centered on the plates and once done there i set it all in the car on the mounting studs and made sure i liked where the seat sat and the range of motion it had I had to adjust my mounting position a couple times for this.
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On this side as can be seen above I was able to get away with using all 1" tube spacers like the front of the drivers side this gave me the correct height clearance from the floor and made the rail mounting easier.
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Just another shot of how the passenger tracks mounted up once i got it, like this i did one final test fit before reinstalling the cushion.
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Overall the seats are very comfortable they offer much better support than any fbody seat and yet are still very cushy. they do make you sit a little higher even though i used the same floor to rail spacing as the camaro seats this is simply because the cushion is higher on the vette seats.After about 10 minutes of driving tho and some adjusting its not even noticeable tome anymore. For people sitting in the rear the leg room is even a little bit better although the seat is taller than a camaro one so the visibility from the rear is a little limited. I'm just about 6' and have no issues getting in or out so if your tall this is a non issue for you guys. Overall for the price i paid i cant complain the seats are awesome and beat the price of aftermarket seats or even trans am seats by a mile. If you all have any questions please feel free to ask leave some feedback also on what you think about the seats.

looks awesome dude what is the thing that 6le sells that fixes the seat belt issue?

its just a leather seat belt guide that can either be stitched on the seat or it comes with 3m double sided tape. Its not too bad right now because like i said they sit a little higher to the belt is just on the lower part of your neck

Hmmmm great write up btw i think i will be doing this this summer

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Hmmmm great write up btw i think i will be doing this this summer

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Thanks guys keep the feedback coming. 10spoke, were u already plannin on doing this or did the pics help u out?

Im just wondering if we could drill the seatbelt guide loops on the side in a "fashionable" way... Hmmmm

God this is awesome, I'd love C6 seats in my Camaro... mouth watering!

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Originally Posted by redbird555

Thanks guys keep the feedback coming. 10spoke, were u already plannin on doing this or did the pics help u out?

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oh i need seats bad but the pictures made me decide that this is the way to go... i hope you don't mind me stealing your idea lol

lol he shouldnt have posted it then

Do you think 2010 Camaro SS seats would fit in a T/A

No prob at all i had never seen it done and though it would be cool lol my seats were all flat and the drivers side was ripped in a few places. But ya they are about the same price as the t/a seats would be. My suggestion is go look on corvette forum and browse there thats where i found these. The brackets arent that complicated just tedious to get it all to measure out right.Basham im sure new camaro seats would fit because GTO's do and they are also big the problem with the gto seats and i suspect the 10' seats would be that they are so big you really cant fit people in the back seat which is why i went this route. The back of the vette seat bolsters are tapered so you actually gain a tad bit of room. Heres a link to the gto seats, see there really isnt much room plus they are pricey... If someone wants to make this thread a sticky just to serve as a diy guide for someone doing any seat transplants it'd be fine with me. :wave:

it looks like i cant post links to tech? not sure why since its not inhibiting sponsors but at any rate jeres the link i used to find it on google just click on the first link http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&so...ts+in+trans+am

Haha thanks redbird555
Im debating on getting racing seat for my T/A but im a little skiddish that it might make it look ricey.

That's pretty damn nice. Wish something could be done for the rear seats to make the interior match tho.

I think it looks pretty good :yup: Way better than the stock Camaro seats. I aways keep my back seats down. I never even see my back seats. So, the fact that they don't match isn't too much of an issue for me. I'd keep the stock seats around though in case I did want to sell.

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Originally Posted by KahanaReef

keep my back seats down. I never even see my back seats.

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Hmmm, didnt think of that. :rockon:

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Originally Posted by BashamWS6

Haha thanks redbird555
Im debating on getting racing seat for my T/A but im a little skiddish that it might make it look ricey.

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Lol just call me dan, and i think as long as you go with a tasteful seat and do both instead of just the one it would look good.

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That's pretty damn nice. Wish something could be done for the rear seats to make the interior match tho.

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Are you talking about the color or the style? The style I admit isnt an exact match but it flows ok with the car better than the ta seats would i think anyway. As far as the color it looks farther off in the pics than it actually is its almost an exact match which is nice.

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Originally Posted by KahanaReef

I think it looks pretty good :yup: Way better than the stock Camaro seats. I aways keep my back seats down. I never even see my back seats. So, the fact that they don't match isn't too much of an issue for me. I'd keep the stock seats around though in case I did want to sell.

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Thanks Ms. Reef are you planning on swapping your fronts anytime soon?

Color looks good, from what I can tell, it was the style/ design, but Kahana's concept works as well. I've only had people in the back seat twice I think anyways.

just did the 200 mile road trip back to college and upon getting out of the car i didnt have the lower back pain i got from my old camaro seats and they were comfy all the way up. giving them an a+ in the comfort department for trips

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just did the 200 mile road trip back to college and upon getting out of the car i didnt have the lower back pain i got from my old camaro seats and they were comfy all the way up. giving them an a+ in the comfort department for trips

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Awesome. Comfort is key. I was considering doing TA seats, but, I think that I will end up going this route instead. And, if need be, maybe sometime down the road, just have the back seats redone to match :dunno:

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but corvettes dont have back seats
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redbird. can you still adjust both seats?

you should really make this a kit and sell it to people, it would be worth your time $$$

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Originally Posted by BashamWS6

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but corvettes dont have back seats
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redbird. can you still adjust both seats?

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Redone as in reupholstered ...

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Originally Posted by KahanaReef

Awesome. Comfort is key. I was considering doing TA seats, but, I think that I will end up going this route instead. And, if need be, maybe sometime down the road, just have the back seats redone to match :dunno:

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Ya a couple people asked my why i didnt do the t/a seats. Which there a few main reasons i didnt. One is that since they are both power it would involve me getting the harness that runs from the drivers side over to the passenger side, another is that a nice set of t/a seats is more than what i paid for these seats and even if the vette seats cost me about as much as they normally do on the internet it would still be about the same price. Last i think the t/a seats look out of place in the camaro. When you see a t/a esp a ws6 the car looks big and mean so you expect to see big seats. The camaro to me atleast looks slimmer and having those big seat in these makes it look a little off to me. Another thing is the t/a seats have power lumbar which is nice but the vette seats can also be had with power lumbar mine just dont because they are the base seats.

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Originally Posted by BashamWS6

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but corvettes dont have back seats
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redbird. can you still adjust both seats?

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Yes you can both seats flip forward, and they both have the full range of motion the stock seats do. This was probably the most challenging part of the install because i wanted the seats to have the same range of motion as the old ones so it took a lot of trial and error fitting. The only thing they dont do it recline all the way flat they both will go about 3/4 of the way to flat but i dont see this as a big deal since i have never had the need to recline my seat all the way flat if i need a flat space i just fold down the back seat.

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you should really make this a kit and sell it to people, it would be worth your time $$$

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Lol thanks but living away at college i simply dont have the time or resources up here to make these as kits and if i did idk that it would be worth it in terms or time and cost for me to iit. Thats why I posted the writeup here. I welcome people to copy my design or even improve upon it. Its a pretty universal idea so if the mods want to make it a sticky im sure it would help anyone who is looking to fit these or any other seats into their car. Maybe Ms. Reef can suggest it or make it happen. :yup:

Freeking awesome dude. I really want to do this swap..... need to find some seats.