http://news.yahoo.com/video/local-15749667/19585803
i think thats too far. what do u guys think?
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http://news.yahoo.com/video/local-15749667/19585803
i think thats too far. what do u guys think?
we need an apocolypse
That is crazy! Fucking dumbass administrators...
fuck them... this is america not mexico... that is discrimination against americans... now if a student wore a italian, german, mexican, any countries flag clothing on an american holiday they'd not be bothered...
It's not about them wearing American colors.
Obviously they wore them on purpose to make a statement.
The school has an obligation to keep the school safe, and the potential for possible fights was there because of the boy's bad decision.
The school saw through their scheme to cause a stir.....It did, they got reprimanded, now the boys & the parents want to cry about it.
Technically it is disrespectful to display the American flag on anything other than a flag, but that's not the issue here.
They're proud of their country, but maybe they should be a little more tolerant of foreign holiday.
Bottom Line. Principal made a hasty and racist decision, and nobody jumps down his throat about racism, why? Because he's Hispanic.
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I see your point.......Quote:
Originally Posted by rbob93
and I still say fuck 'em - this IS America, and if a Mexican wants to wear a shirt with a Mexican flag on it on the 4th of July, I really don't care.
These people need to get some thicker skin and get over it.
I completely agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by FasstChevys
It reminds me of how Mexicans protesting out here march the streets carrying Mexican flags demanding their American rights :wtf:
When did it become unacceptable to show pride in your country. It's dispicable...:rolleyes:
The bandana was too much but the shirts and shorts were no problem.
If I was the students, I would dress in only red white and blue for the rest of the year.
Well hello sunshine! :hug:Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
Hello yourself, Jacque :kiss:Quote:
Originally Posted by FasstChevys
Why am I reminded of Sylvester the Cat????Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
And I agree. When did it become wrong to be white and display pride in your country???? It pisses me off that Mexican American students can display an American flag UNDER a Mexican flag (it's sctually against the law to do this) like they did in Montebello, yet American kids get disciplined for wearing an American flag.
This Politically Correct crap has got to come to an end before we come to an end.
lol their american rights that they're not entitled to because they're illegal? exactly. I agree, the bandana ( edit after i said banana) was a bit much. I'd wear red white and blue the rest of the year too. So here's the question...when is it racism against white people? when is it racism against americans?Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
I always think of him when I use that word. Lisp and all :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS
"You're dithpicable!" :rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
This concept does not exist whites are the only racist people as viewed by most people in America.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramairgod84
Tim James is a candidate for Governor in AL. Here is one of his ads that airs.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9ohsvJHkbY[/ame]
If people wanna start fights because American colors were shown on a mexican holiday they need to remember this is America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! And so do you apparently, please dont have any kids if your going to teach them its only ok to where this countrys colors on days that arent other countrys holidays.Quote:
Originally Posted by rbob93
the school district does not agree with the principal who sent them home.
a couple of the kids are half mexican and still wore the attire.
this is the United States and my beloved banner is red, white, and blue and a school district can fuck itself square in it's own ass if it thinks that just because it's a mexican/latin american holiday that the wearing of anything that does not represent that holiday is wrong. the kids wore what they wanted to that day for whatever reason it doesn't matter. the administration had no right to tell them to take the clothes off or to send them home. they were not causing a disturbance or doing anything wrong.
in fact...the only thing more wrong about sending the kids home is that the flag of the US is being used as an advertisement to sell clothing. flag code says that the flag should not be placed on clothing or on disposable items such as cups or napkins. i cringed at the sight of the kids flag pants...i mean really...he's farting and sitting on my beautiful banner all damned day. and the other kid is standing on my flag all day. THAT'S wrong. the t-shirt of the flag itself is considerably less offensive to me but still technically wrong.
all said though the actions of the school administration should be punished for their un-american actions just because they considered it threatening to public safety. well guess what. you don't walk into a bar as a cop and arrest a guy sitting at the bar holding keys ordering a beer on the offhand chance that he MIGHT chug it quick and hop in his car.
those mexican kids don't even know the reason behind the day, guaran-damn-tee you
kinda had to laugh at one thing in there. he kept walking into the room from off camera. reminded me of the family guy where peter ran for school board and kept finding chairs to put his foot on in random places around the school.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dabom75
Hell I'm white as the driven snow and I know what the day signifies: It's time to drink Tequila!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx
In all seriousness, it's signifies the 1st time the rag tag Mexican Army defeated the occupying French Army during their battle for independance.
i love how they scream for our health benefits, go to our schools for free, dont pay taxes, and then have the nerve to get upset about that crap
I agree that the school was dead wrong. I thought we lived in the USA not Mexico.
Why are we the only country in the world that celebrates other countries holidays. They do not celebrate ours. If you voluntarily leave your country to come here then STOP celebrating what you ran away from.
I for one am tired of our PC BS. Who gives a damn if we do not celebrate Cinco de Mayo. Does Mexico celebrate 4th of July? And as stated before most do not know what Cinco de Mayo is really about. (most people in Puebla Mexico probably do not know either)
correct on the serious part. pitchforks beat and actual french military force in a small battle. but then again one person's common knowledge is definitely not another'sQuote:
Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS
I just watched the news, a female student stated that she found it very disrespectful for those students to wear the American Flag on their Mexican holiday...
Really? :faint:
The entitlement felt by some of these people is absolutely amazing. Either you want to be an American or you don't. If you don't... LEAVE :wave:
to get drunk?Quote:
Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx
They really should put a ban on interviewing HS students 99% of the time what they have to say is completely irrelevant and dumb.Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
okay... so I just watched this a few minutes ago. While I think that it's BS to be sent home for wearing American colors. Actually, they were given a choice between turning their shirt inside out or going home (I'd have gone home too). I also tend to thing that most of these kids probably did it to make a point and it wasn't that they just happened to be wearing American items on Cinco de Mayo. One of them when interviewed said he wasn't doing it to start anything... I think he was lying about that. I'm also glad that they did. I think it's great that they were making a statement and I hope that many more will do that.
Disrespectful? seriously?! Coming to America to get away from your country, but having more pride for the country you left than the country you are in, I'd have to say that's disrespectful. If they've a problem with it, the border is that way :gtfo:.
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Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx
There's another reason? I wasn't aware. (kidding)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nhra Firebird
:Patriot:
like I said in the train yesterday, I don't need a reason to drink. That sounds like a woman thing to do. Guarantee 9/10 mexicans at that school don't know about the fight against the french. Next time someone wears english clothing on the anniversary of the start of the scottish rebellion against the long-shanks I have the right to whoop their ass, right??
Well if cinco de miyo or however the fuck you spell it is so great the can move their assed back down there and celibrate. I am so sick and tired of walking on eggshells so I don't offend anyone. so if your illegal :gtfo: if your an illegal sypathizer :gtfo: if you side with anti gun laws :gtfo: if you side with laws that take our very rights away as CITIZENS that was fought for in the reveloutionary war :gtfo: If you side with street thugs :gtfo: we have absolutley no use for your kind in this country!!! and I don't give a hairy rats ass if your white,black,hispanic,asian or what the fuck ever if you dont like it there are several airlines that will take you away.
Not that I condone what's being done (see my previous remarks), but this area (SouthWest America) was a part of Mexico when the 5th of May events took place, hence the celebration of a so called "Mexican holiday" (the Mexicans don't really celebrate this) in America.
Good excuse to drink; bad excuse to practice the old PC BS...
Cinco De Mayo is celebration of the May 5, 1862 victory over French forces at the Battle of Puebla.Quote:
Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS
CA was admitted to the Union on September 9th, 1850.
Let's call it for what it is... in the US, cinco de mayo is nothing more than an excuse to drink mas cerveza. Just like freaking Saint Patrick's day... except for the fact that the Irish immigrated a century ago and the mexicans are doing it now.
Would a Irish student on St Pat's day be offened by the flag??Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveZ28
A hundred years ago? Couldn't tell you, I'm a spring chicken. But just guessing... entirely maybe. Hundred years from now who knows what will get panties in a wad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Z28Thunder
Nope asking about it happening now/today. A kid walks in a school wearing a shirt that is a flag on St Pats Day...Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveZ28
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Originally Posted by SteveZ28
Wasn't my point, but I'll play. Of course no one would be upset... no one gives a donk about the Irish immigrating into the US 100 years ago at this point. So no one cares about some high school douche wearing an irish T-shirt on St Paddies day, in fact, its "kinda cool." At the end of the, regardless of how it was perceived 100 years ago, in retrospect the Irish made this country stronger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Z28Thunder
As for the current illegal immigration problem, touchy subject of course. Will it make our country stronger? Don't know. My guess is that we will be playin bitch to the chinese in another couple decades regardless.
You've got quite a convincing point there...Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
Still, boatload of mexicans in Cali when it was admitted to the union...
I chalk up my ignorance to celebrating Cinco de Mayo for the whole week!
Okay I will play... I know the mexican migration has been happening since what about 1850? And the holiday has been celebrated in California continuously since 1863. I think thats more than 100 years ago. Its not like mexican immigration is new. I guess I should have just asked the question without a quote. My mistake sir...Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveZ28
I agree with the decision of the principal.
Before you jump on me for that, consider my viewpoint.
Do I think it's right that the American flag should be removed or otherwise hidden from view on American soil? Of course not.
However, considering the context, I fully support the principal. Not for the same reasons as him though (Was his decision influenced by race? I don't know, I can't say, I'm not him).
My reasoning for agreeing with his decision is this:
These high school kids; no, wait, let me rephrase, these idiotic douchebag tools, don't give a fuck about the American flag or what it represents. They were disrespecting the flag to the utmost by turning it into some wannabe-gang paraphernalia so they could 'be hard' towards the students who decided to celebrate Cinco De Mayo. It had nothing to do with American pride or anything close to it. Not only was it a disgraceful way to use the flag, it was also a plain and simple attempt to instigate trouble. And one of the arrogant dipshits even had the audacity to say "hurr durr I didn't do it to start sumthing..." Like fuck you didn't. Perhaps if you truly want to 'be hard', you should try attaining even a fraction of the resolve that the founders and defenders of the United States had/have.
You guys can argue until the end of time about unruly immigrants, but most of the immigrants I know (Including myself I suppose, being an immigrant(illegally though lol(not srs lol(well maybe srs(wait, wat?))))) have ten-fold the respect and pride towards the USA that these suckass dolts claim to have. That's why I fully agree with their punishment, these assholes don't even deserve to look at the flag, let alone display it in such a demeaning manner. It really says something when you appear to be a better candidate for deportation than the immigrants you're "standing up against", doesn't it?
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Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
+1 :cheers: Well wrote and thought of :yup:
Looks like we both saw the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
One sentence you write I dont know if the principal's choice was racist or not, "I can't say, Im not him". Then you tell us what the highschool students were thinking and what they understand about American pride and what they care about. I understand your thinking, high school kids what can they know about true pride. I was rasied my whole life with American pride, in highschool yes I was a young republican, yes I shook Bushs hand in 2004 when we skipped school just to see them speak. All im saying is in High school I was very politcal, did reasearch about politics almost every night. Im not saying the kids had good intentions or not all im saying is what happened to I dont know how they felt, I'm not them. Which was perfectly fine for you to say about the principal but when it came to the kids you called them "assholes who dont even deserve to look at a flag."Quote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
Excellent counter-argument. I suppose I do sound hypocritical, and I do know that there are many young people well-versed in politics (Sometimes even more so than many adults, which is worrying), however the impression I got from the video, which would have been influenced by stereotypes I hold, is that these aren't the type of kids you cited in your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinergy
Again, I admit my biases because I know I hold great contempt towards highschoolers who think they know everything (And even people my own age).
Um... there is this little thing called the "Oath of Allegiance" It's an oath that must be taken by all immigrants who wish to become United States citizens. Nuff said!!!
I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God.
So, those students celebrating the military victories of Mexico, a country that wasn't good enough for them to stay loyal, a country that kept them in poverty, a country that they felt the strong need to migrate from, legally or illegally... how can they find it disrespectful for students to show pride and loyalty to this country, the United States of America. The very country that has given immigrants 'opportunity' they wouldn't have had otherwise in Mexico?
To me, it's beyond unreasonable and a slap in the face to all Americans.
The school itself was active in the celebration. Perhaps the only 'holidays' that our schools should participate in are American holidays. I mean after all, we are ALL Americans, right? They've already taken religious holiday observation out of our schools to appease those who don't celebrate. So, why should immigrants be allowed to celebrate military victories of foreign countries in our public schools while at the same time disallowing a show of pride in this country...
It's not right.
I strongly dislike highschool kids who act the same way, even though im sure i had some of that attitude back then aswell. But in my school american flags and shirts were welcome although i will say in the midwest the hispanic population doesnt hold a candle to CA. But CA is still a American state. 3 kids even wore a shirt that were a spoof of the 9-11 united we stand shirts that said united we fall. Well those kids got there asses kicked just like the kids who said "fuck the troops cause they made the choice to sign up in the military" and those shirts were ban so I understand how something as simple as a shirt can cause high schoolers to fight(myself included). But an American pride shirt in America should never be frowned upon because of the fact its a holiday no matter what holiday that may be.Quote:
Originally Posted by 86 IROC-Z
Can someone remind me what the fuck country we are living in? This shit just blows my fucking mind. Fuck the whole "trying to keep it safe bullshit". Thats the fucking problem. Its THE KIDS that bitched, the fact that they even have the audacity to say something knowing the administration would just cave in is a problem. We americans just fucking cave in way too easy any more. To not be able to wear the colors and american flag in america blows me away. Everyday I see puerto rican and colombian flags. Keep it up people, they are fucking taking over and were letting it happen. California isnt even a US state anymore. Its just North Mexico
One other thing.... If they are so fuckin proud of mexican independence why the hell didnt they just stay there if its so great?
hah. okay how long till St Pattys day? cant wait to break this rule, i bet at least 50% of the people here have Irish heritage muahaha.Quote:
Originally Posted by 310stanger
Irish people would never bitch about this. Not to mention Irish-americans are probably some of the most patriotic people you'll ever meet. I'm willing to bet the NYFD is like half irish-americanQuote:
Originally Posted by justinmc978
I mention NYFD because well, if you met some of those guys you'd get what im gettin at.
st. patrick's day is to celebrate st. patrick, not mexican independence
North mexico lol that's classicQuote:
Originally Posted by 310stanger
wow you going hard on them man........................i hate to say it but i agree with you on this one manQuote:
Originally Posted by 310stanger
display American pride on Irish holiday = .. kicked off campus? news coverage? profit?Quote:
Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx
The thing is that CA bolnged to mexico. It actually still does unoficially.Quote:
Originally Posted by 310stanger
No it doesn't. Read up on the Mexican War and the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo :)Quote:
Originally Posted by EVO8 driver
And again, cinco de mayo occured during the civil war, after Mexico lost land to the states...
It celebrates or so I thought The Battle of Puebla. Although the Mexican army was victorious over the French at Puebla, the victory only delayed the French advance on Mexico City. A year later, the French occupied Mexico. Puebla is in southern mexico and closer to Gautemala and Honduras, than the US border.Quote:
Originally Posted by wheeliE-maxx
Your car kicks assQuote:
Originally Posted by EVO8 driver
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Originally Posted by 310stanger
As far as the Irish, St Patrick's day comparison goes... I think you'd be hard pressed to find any Irish American that would find the use of pro USA clothes to be disrespectful on any day period.
To me, that is the issue. The fact that these so called Mexican AMERICANS found it to be disrespectful on THEIR day.
And that was my point..... Both are immigrants and have been coming to the US for a long time.Quote:
Originally Posted by KahanaReef
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Originally Posted by KahanaReef
people, it was a joke:yup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Z28Thunder
Yeah, I was just using it to make the point that no other nationality/race that I know of, would be offended by anyone showing American pride/spirit on a traditionally non American holiday that they may observe.Quote:
Originally Posted by justinmc978