I have always heard that removing your front sway bar will help you get a better launch. Is there any truth to this or any negative consequences on the car itself?
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I have always heard that removing your front sway bar will help you get a better launch. Is there any truth to this or any negative consequences on the car itself?
You might lose a little weight by removing it, but not enough to make a difference IMO. Plus your car won't handle as well. Unless it's strictly a drag car I don't think I'd worry about it.
/\ What he said. Most people pull it at the drag strip to help with getting the weight off the nose of the car to aid in weight transfer.
Sounds good thanks for the help.
One guy I know in particular runs on the road w/o it. I don't know if I would do it on the road but removing it certainly helps w/ weight transfer. Remove that, passenger seat and rear seat and you almost got a 100lbs out:D
I removed mine and noticed it rolls A LOT more.
I let it sit six months over the winter and went for a drive in it again. It wasn't such a drastic change anymore and I don't mind it being off. So I never put it back on.
Well I decided to take it off and I did notice alot of body roll. But it also raised the car up about an inch on the front. But it brings me to another point recently my car seems to pull to the left and right randomly. Also the steering wheel shakes a good bit. Was wondering if anyone has this problem? I don't think it has anything to do with the sway bar, though. I have had the car aligned and I did not fix the problem.
It didn't pull at all before the removal?
It did some but by removing the sway bar it greatly applified how much it pulls. And like i said it pulls in random directions.
Is this over rough roads?
Mine does that too, but on smooth roads, like concrete interstates, it doesn't pull and drives straight...
I removed mine last year for the track. The front does seem to roll more, there's no doubt about that. I don't mind street driving it like that really, but now that I have Koni 4/4's to install, I might wanna get it back on.
It does seem to show some improvement for weight transfer at the track. Also, you don't have to remove it totally... just remove one end.
Losing the sway bar or disconnecting one end helps the front end lift and weight transfer, let alone losing a couple pounds. I took mine off years ago, didn't notice any difference, so I just left it off.
Does a strut tower brace help to transfer weight? I have one already and was thinking about removing the front sway bar? If I do these will it infer with how the car drives?
No, useless for drag racing.Quote:
Originally Posted by HitManLs1
Will it help with the control of the car if I take the front sway bar off?
No, it makes it worse for the street and corner driving (even tho I don't really notice any difference) just makes you hook up better on launch at the track.Quote:
Originally Posted by HitManLs1
The reason your having steering trouble is because you removed the "stablizer bar" (proper name fyi) As long as it's not present the car will handle poorly even unpredictable @ times.. Your car is now relying on the rear stablizer to control all of the cars lateral roll.. You are experiancing suspension float.. I'd venture to say that leaving it off could cause the rear sway bar linkages to break.. This will most likely result in a crash.... I would reinstall it immediately.......
Smittro, I don't know how much drag racing you do or experience with the little extras people do to hook but this is pretty common practice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smittro
Plenty of people remove or unhook the front sway bar and drive thousands of miles like that. Myself included. It does affect the handling, but sometimes its just easier to leave it off if your going to the track twice a week. No damage will occur from leaving the front sway bar off.
I'm not speaking about drag racing.. I'm speaking of a car that will be hitting public roads.. Disconnecting the syablizer could easily result in a spin that could cause others on the road to be injured.. I could care less about drag racing.. What I do care about is it possibly driving on the same roads as my family aggressively without a KEY componet of his/her suspension...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi-Po
So am I.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smittro
Read edit.. I stand by my posts. You don't have to like it... Good day sir...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hi-Po
Hipo, I've owned many, many vehicles in my time.. I have seen many suspension geometries... I fully understand how a suspension works.. ESPECIALLY multi link, and double wish bone, and McPhiereson(sp).. If you'd like to pick my posts apart that is alright.. I will still know better.. Book smarts are one thing hands on is another..
Rubbish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smittro
Explain........SirQuote:
Originally Posted by INMY01TA
You've obviously never taken yours off and driven with it like this. No point in arguing with you about it. Would be like trying to convince Paul Helmke or Bloomberg that guns save lives and lower crime.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smittro
That is exactly what I thought you'd say.. You can move along now.. Or go on to explain your reasoning.Quote:
Originally Posted by INMY01TA
Or you can move along and leave this thread to people that actually have experience in this department rather than relying on your emotions. "OMG. You're gonna fly off the road and kill my child!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Smittro
I never said that.. You have nothing....:burnout:Quote:
Originally Posted by INMY01TA
Like you???:lmao::lmao: Talks about emotions just after going political in a suspension thread..:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by INMY01TA
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The reason your having steering trouble is because you removed the "stablizer bar"
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As long as it's not present the car will handle poorly even unpredictable @ times..
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I'd venture to say that leaving it off could cause the rear sway bar linkages to break.
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This will most likely result in a crash.... I would reinstall it immediately
Anything else to add?
:lmao: Proof?? Cause you seem so qualified...:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by INMY01TA
INMY01TA, Prove me wrong and I will gladly concede... I have no trouble with that...
Proof is that with no sway bar the car still handles better than most other cars on the road. Better than my Colorado. Much less body roll. Is that unsafe to drive? Use the rofl smiley all you want, you look foolish cause you've never even driven the car in such a manner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smittro
I've driven with broken ones.. I stand by my posts, and await your next post that lacks any proof that my posts are in correct... That means you've been called son....Quote:
Originally Posted by INMY01TA
Infact I just replaced the broken ones on my 01 Camaro with Moog linkages part #K5252...
Smittro, I'm trying to be civil here. Don't take this out of context, personal, or get super defensive as it seems you do so many times against me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smittro
I don't know what more proof you want. It boils down to this:
It will not cause a crash. Thousands of people drive like this on the road. I put thousands of miles on my TA last year with no front sway bar. Never once came close to crashing.
It will not cause the rear sway bar mounting points to break. Refer to above. Thousands of miles, and countless people to say the same. It will not cause damage.
It will not cause the car to become unpredictable. Again, refer to the above. Its not that hard to understand, countless people do this. Its common. You never hear of any crashes because of a front sway bar missing, it just doesn't happen.
Been called? Hardly. Fact is no ones ever had an accident from removing one. Case closed. :buttkick: In order for you to continue your drivel of the mouth you must post link to accident due to removed sway bar. Good luck. :bow: :tired:Quote:
Originally Posted by Smittro
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Originally Posted by Hi-Po
I disagree...Quote:
Originally Posted by INMY01TA
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Good enough, we can agree to disagree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smittro
This summer will be one year without the front sway bar for me. I've driven a few thousand miles. It has more body roll, but no issues really.
I appologize for the altercation.. I just totally disagree that it's a good idea to drive without stablizer/s.. They were put on for a reason...
You gotta release the horses man, they are just ready to get up and gallop past a shitty mustang.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smittro
Using the sway bar is like running the 100m dash with an LCA tied to your wrists. It's like :hmm: this doesn't make much sense.
I keep mine tight in the front and a little soft in the back.. Run super stickies (installed about 2-3wk's ago) which I'll need to replace by summers end.. The left rear stock linkage was snapped (moog replacements).. The car was loose cornering left tight to the right.. I don't have the LS1's power so I use tighter settings in the front for a little nose "push" comming out of the corners.. I had a snapped front sway bar on my 95 v6 and the car felt loose al the time and would sometimes hop the front tires exiting a corner hard.. Kind of like a chattering squeal. It occasionaly felt like it was @ the edge of control on uneven pavement as well as causing the car to break differently/unevenly comming into a hard corner which gave it a feel of unpredictablity..Quote:
Originally Posted by allbaugh_04
buddy of mine has a cherokee with no sway bars at all, body roll is somewhat bad, but never bad enough to cause an accident, however, i would much rather leave the sway bars in my ws6 and be able to hook a turn without a doubt in the back of my mind...
4 years and 20k miles without my front swaybar. No accidents, I guess I'm on borrowed time huh. :shitstorm:
when I was in highschool my dad had a 78 Chevrolet Scottsdale step side. he took it to a frame shop and had it lowered with really stiff springs and new shocks. when he got it back, him and I drove it around for a month before we realized the idiots forgot to put the front sway bar back on!! BUT, the only reason my dad noticed is because he was looking under the truck one day to see where oil was leaking from, not because he could feel the difference....
Like I said it was put on there for a reason...and it only takes once..:coffee: You guys do what ever the hell you want with your rides, and I'll do the same and leave it because there's more to cars than going fast in a strait line :lol:..:DQuote:
Originally Posted by 02blkws6
That's what a Z06 is for.
I agree but I like ALL my rides to have the ability to corner hard.. I drive the tread off my tires, rather than spin it off..:lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by allbaugh_04
I'd put my stablized z34 4 wheel independant against any f-body without stabalizers in hard fast corner.. I guarantee they'll be picking the f-body out of the weeds, :lmao:
"But man! It sure was fast in a strait line to bad most roads turn huh?" :lmao:
And what does your car run? If you ain't faster you got no room talking shit. Even I know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smittro
I don't care how fast or how good it handles, I'd rather drive an f body car over a z34 any day..........:wwf:
+100Quote:
Originally Posted by xmarkx
a z34 is like a daily beater car you drive to work everyday.... if were comparing z34's with f bodies now that I want to throw my bucket corolla into the debate as well!!:itsok:
Turns schmurns. I'll catch em on the straightaways.