Question about Roof on 02 Trans Am

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02-15-2010, 05:38 AM
Skunkt-u

Question about Roof on 02 Trans Am

Ok, I have been looking around for a T/A (CETA PREFERRED) and have found a T/A but the roof of it has bubbles. (what i think looks like cancer spots) Does anyone know or heard of these being a problem or even know what it is or what causes it. The car is located out West and it tends to get 110+ degrees during the summer time but its a dry heat compared to the humidty we have here in Texas. Thanks in advance. Sorry if this has been brought up before...
02-15-2010, 07:29 AM
Dabom75

Sail panels have a big issue on this.

Search around cause someone has a detailed process of replacing the panel and no more probs.
02-15-2010, 08:27 AM
chuckie669

It's a well known problem in the f-body community. Has to do with the adhesive they used to install the sail panel. If you look closely you'll see it follows a glue line. Most if not all cars will develop it sooner or later. Mine started to bubble up sitting in the garage. :(
02-17-2010, 07:26 AM
qwk93ta

I have a few bubbles on my 00 WS6, looks like crap.
02-17-2010, 08:31 AM
vikingramair

If you repaint the sail panels without removing it, will the bubbles pop-up again?
02-17-2010, 08:41 AM
PontiacFan

Quote:

Originally Posted by vikingramair

If you repaint the sail panels without removing it, will the bubbles pop-up again?

YES, the only repair known to eliminate the bubbles is to remove & replace the existing glue/panel.
03-10-2010, 04:02 PM
StrikerWS6

Does anyone have any idea how much a new piece is from GM?
03-10-2010, 09:21 PM
Smittro

From Pajeffs thread. Quote: "$445.19 through GM Parts Direct".... Check this thread out might help..

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...hlight=bubbles
03-11-2010, 07:37 PM
StrikerWS6

Ok thanks, got it all. The question is, if I sent it to a body shop, what are the odds this wont happen again? Is it the specific glue gm used?
03-11-2010, 07:45 PM
Smittro

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrikerWS6

Ok thanks, got it all. The question is, if I sent it to a body shop, what are the odds this wont happen again? Is it the specific glue gm used?

Yes! They will come back.. Yes it is the glue wonderfull Gm used on our cars..:unhappy: I remember a time when they use to BOLT things together..
03-11-2010, 07:51 PM
Smittro

When I think about how they glued the panels together, I often picture a one tooth wonder on a step stool with a cigarette in their mouth, one eye closed and a caulking gun. "there fix-ed her real goods! Whens lunch?"
03-11-2010, 08:10 PM
BLK2KSS

Mine just started bubbling like 8 months ago and now looks like shit up close. I polish it every chance I get so I looks good from about 5 feet away.
03-11-2010, 08:35 PM
67CamaroRSSS

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smittro

Yes! They will come back.. Yes it is the glue wonderfull Gm used on our cars..:unhappy: I remember a time when they use to BOLT things together..

Glue is the new bolt...
03-11-2010, 09:12 PM
az gt eater

im keeping my fingers crossed.....
03-12-2010, 07:56 AM
Smittro

Quote:

Originally Posted by 67CamaroRSSS

Glue is the new bolt...

Agree! ...and high carbon molecular(sp) plasitics is the new cast..:suicide:
03-12-2010, 07:59 AM
Smittro

Quote:

Originally Posted by az gt eater

im keeping my fingers crossed.....

Prolly would be less noticable on a bright silver f-bod. But they're comming! Only a matter of when and where.. Even if she's garage kept they're comming..:(
03-12-2010, 01:39 PM
StrikerWS6

But wouldnt the body shop use different glue to attach the new roof to the car?
03-12-2010, 02:24 PM
Smittro

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrikerWS6

But wouldnt the body shop use different glue to attach the new roof to the car?

I'd hope so.. I gathered from your post you might be thinking about just repainting it. My b.:sillyme:
03-13-2010, 08:20 PM
StrikerWS6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smittro

I'd hope so.. I gathered from your post you might be thinking about just repainting it. My b.:sillyme:

No sir, I am probably gonna look into a whole new roof from GM (hence the reason I asked for a price) so paint it and get the shop to install it. That's just terrible man :S

I cant believe its almost 500 bucks!
03-14-2010, 10:35 AM
dragonZ28

The repair is to remove, and discard the existing roof. Then remove the existing urethane adhesive. The new roof pieces are not porous as the originals are, this as why they bubble. Gas from the adhesive seeps through the roof panel, and comes from under the paint, This is why the original roof panel must go. no matter how many times you "repaint" it will come back.
The "new urethane" is a different type. and the new panel will be primed on all surfaces, even underneath. Get the paint job to match, and you are ready to drive again.

Expect a $900.00 bill for this job. I know, because I had it done.

Thanks, Roger
03-14-2010, 11:31 AM
StrikerWS6

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonZ28

The repair is to remove, and discard the existing roof. Then remove the existing urethane adhesive. The new roof pieces are not porous as the originals are, this as why they bubble. Gas from the adhesive seeps through the roof panel, and comes from under the paint, This is why the original roof panel must go. no matter how many times you "repaint" it will come back.
The "new urethane" is a different type. and the new panel will be primed on all surfaces, even underneath. Get the paint job to match, and you are ready to drive again.

Expect a $900.00 bill for this job. I know, because I had it done.

Thanks, Roger

Yeah I know. I was gonna get Koni's instead and drive another summer with the bubbling roof. Mine's bubbling fairly good even on the sides as well.
03-15-2010, 09:28 AM
dragonZ28

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrikerWS6

Yeah I know. I was gonna get Koni's instead and drive another summer with the bubbling roof. Mine's bubbling fairly good even on the sides as well.

The paint bubbles will exactly follow the path that the original urethanne adhesive was applied with. Even down the sides of the sail panel.
There is a technical service bulletin, that tells the dealership exactly how to repair this probelm. Basically what I summarized earlier.

Thanks, Roger
03-16-2010, 07:07 AM
StrikerWS6

Quote:

Originally Posted by dragonZ28

The paint bubbles will exactly follow the path that the original urethanne adhesive was applied with. Even down the sides of the sail panel.
There is a technical service bulletin, that tells the dealership exactly how to repair this probelm. Basically what I summarized earlier.

Thanks, Roger

I understand that, I actually have a copy of the bulletin. Now it's just a matter of koni's or new roof