Keep extra eye on ur firebirds pics inside =(

First it was Mustang Killa, and now this happens to me...granted its not as bad. but still the pain is killing me y would a honda driver do this

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wasnt on the curb when i parked it.

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F u honda.............seriously

all we know is it was a white honda, late 90's early 2000. I had just gotten home from working. Went inside got a drink i heard tires and then a big sound like something got hit hard. had a bad feeling so i sprinted outside. saw it, saw a glimse of the car and i sprinted after it, but was gone b4 i got to the end of the street. called cops. probly wont sleep tonight. 2nd fbody same exact spot that they get hit on the car, and where it was parked

*******THE GUY CALLED IN THIS MORNING SAYING SOMEONE HIT HIM AND RAN, LATER THE STORY CHANGED TO HE DOESNT KNOW WHO WAS DRIVING BUT WASNT HIM AND IT ENDED UP IN HIS DRIVEWAY********

Daym! This is why I own an 8 car parking lot, completely off the main street.. Hopefully your insurrance covers it..Sorry bud..

this weeks sucks for everyone, where in dallas do you live?

Hopefully you find the SOB

Damn bro im sorry thats rough

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Hopefully you find the SOB

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ooo he better hope they find him b4 i do.

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Daym! This is why I own an 8 car parking lot, completely off the main street.. Hopefully your insurrance covers it..Sorry bud..

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Full coverage so they better

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this weeks sucks for everyone, where in dallas do you live?

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Arlington.

I seriously would call a bunch of your local body shops and ask if any white Honda's have been in to get fixed.....

Just saying....might get lucky. Guess it wouldn't "prove" they necessarily hit you, but if they have black paint on their car......

its what the cop said they would do 4 me, and i had him put it on a freind of mines desk who is a detective just so i know it gets done.

makes me sick, how does that sorry ass sleep at night

That sucks! Hope you get it fixed ok. If not, get the check then put it towards the LS1 you want.

Condolences. Hope they catch the idiot and good luck with repairs.

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That sucks! Hope you get it fixed ok. If not, get the check then put it towards the LS1 you want.

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ill take either.........anyone know how long something like this normally takes till something gets done about it with insurance? weather they write a check or send it somewhere to get fixed?

:wtf: WHAT IS THIS SH!T??!!

This is why I am glad I have a driveway. Probably some drunk schmoe with nothing better to do.

only way i could get in the drive way is 1. put the Huge V10 truck in the street, and take about 5 mins to get up the hill without scraping. i wanna move to a flat driveway with a garage.........that litterally is my only reason for wanting 2 move.

Damn, that's the second time? I would invest in one of those security camera's for the remainder of your stay there. That way the next time they decide to tuck tail and run, you can pin their ass in court. Hopefully it doesn't have to go that far.

Was your last car that white one that was posted up here?

Sorry to hear you have a$$holes who live by you too...

na last car was a 1999 camaro ss. that is a good idea about the camera. not gonna let this happen again no one get punished, not 2 my baby.

This scares me, I can't get my Camaro into the drive to steep, scraps like a mother. It will take around four or five to get paid or get it fixed.

4 or 5 days? weeks? months? if u say years ima just start kick the hell outta white color car honda drivers

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4 or 5 days? weeks? months? if u say years ima just start kick the hell outta white color car honda drivers

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opps, sorry days. Thats been my exprence.

Probably depends on what insurance company you have, but most big players will distribute payment within a week or two.

id rather them total it......but u know insurance companies

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If the damage total is worth more than a certain % of the total car value they will consider it totaled. Then you will be given the opportunity to buy the car back from the insurance company at a ridiculously low rate.

Make sure you take it to a place that mechanically inspects the vehicle, we have some places around here that will only look at the obvious. With a nasty front end collision like that, there can way more damage than what you can see. That'll help bring the total amount of damage up.

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If the damage total is worth more than a certain % of the total car value they will consider it totaled. Then you will be given the opportunity to buy the car back from the insurance company at a ridiculously low rate.

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hmm...should i buy it back even if they total it? its a V6, 85k miles, 5speed...i guess really depends how bad it is

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Make sure you take it to a place that mechanically inspects the vehicle, we have some places around here that will only look at the obvious. With a nasty front end collision like that, there can way more damage than what you can see. That'll help bring the total amount of damage up.

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ya its not just cosmetic, some of the frame isnt exactly bent or broken...its like gone. and im sure it would have messed up some of the engine, powersteering ended up on the otherside but im no expert

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hmm...should i buy it back even if they total it? its a V6, 85k miles, 5speed...i guess really depends how bad it is

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Depends on how much, and if you want the car as a project I guess? Usually after a car is totaled by your insurance company and you buy it back, you no longer can have full coverage on it.

They caught the guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And he as insurance!!!!

*******THE GUY CALLED IN THIS MORNING(to the police, who later let me know) SAYING SOMEONE HIT HIM AND RAN, LATER THE STORY CHANGED TO HE DOESNT KNOW WHO WAS DRIVING BUT WASNT HIM AND IT ENDED UP IN HIS DRIVEWAY********

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They caught the guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And he as insurance!!!!

*******THE GUY CALLED IN THIS MORNING(to the police, who later let me know) SAYING SOMEONE HIT HIM AND RAN, LATER THE STORY CHANGED TO HE DOESNT KNOW WHO WAS DRIVING BUT WASNT HIM AND IT ENDED UP IN HIS DRIVEWAY********

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Wow, what an even bigger idiot!!

You should meet this guy in person and punch him in the face.

I hope they nail him for everything they can and you can get your car fixed or better yet fix it and throw an LS in.

Glad to hear they got the sheissekopf. Now ya gotta play the waiting game to see if the bird is repairable/totalled.

ya im still worried about it..........kbb doesnt say its worth that much unless its retail or private selling. my dad says they will try to give u the lowest price they can find anywhere like what a dealer would pay.

Parking on the street always scares me. It's a crap shoot.

Sorry you got nailed. Hopefully the insurance company will come through for you quickly

Um, did that happen on the evening of Friday the 13th? :p

dam i sorry to hear that bro

I think I would start parking way up in my yard!!! Glad they caught them. I doubt seriously they will total it. Maybe a few front suspension parts, new wheel and tire, new fender, and refiberglass the door and some paint and you'll be as good as new. Sorry to hear about this. Makes me glad I park mine 'behind' my house about 40 yards from the road. At least they had insurance! In my opinion, you would be better off keeping it and letting them fix it, than trying to get it totalled. Kelly Blue Book is amazingly low when it comes to the value of our cars, in spite of the fact that they are collectors to us.....

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I think I would start parking way up in my yard!!! Glad they caught them. I doubt seriously they will total it. Maybe a few front suspension parts, new wheel and tire, new fender, and refiberglass the door and some paint and you'll be as good as new. Sorry to hear about this. Makes me glad I park mine 'behind' my house about 40 yards from the road. At least they had insurance! In my opinion, you would be better off keeping it and letting them fix it, than trying to get it totalled. Kelly Blue Book is amazingly low when it comes to the value of our cars, in spite of the fact that they are collectors to us.....

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All the shit you just named is going to be several thousands of dollars to repair. His car being a 2000 and a V6 probably is not valued really high.

I had a lady across the street "lightly back into" my 1996 V6 Camaro I park on the street. The body shop wanted $1200 just for that....

I am guessing that the insurance company might total it.

I would think that if the cost is going to be several thousand dollars, that would cost less to the ins. co. than 6 to 8K to total it, don't you?

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I would think that if the cost is going to be several thousand dollars, that would cost less to the ins. co. than 6 to 8K to total it, don't you?

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Last time I checked, a Pontiac Firebird that is almost 10 years old that is a V6 is not worth 8K.....

If someone is willing to buy one for that, you better break their arm off getting the money from them.

The several thousands of dollars would be in probably parts alone, not inclusive of labor, which is where a majority of the money would come in at.

KBB, with basic options lists his car at: Excellent $4,960, Good $4,510, and
Fair $3,985

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ya im still worried about it..........kbb doesnt say its worth that much unless its retail or private selling. my dad says they will try to give u the lowest price they can find anywhere like what a dealer would pay.

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they are going to give me $11,5XX towards mine..it will take forever to get it but that may give u an idea to gauge yours...i def. feel your pain on this..

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Last time I checked, a Pontiac Firebird that is almost 10 years old that is a V6 is not worth 8K.....

If someone is willing to buy one for that, you better break their arm off getting the money from them.

The several thousands of dollars would be in probably parts alone, not inclusive of labor, which is where a majority of the money would come in at.

KBB, with basic options lists his car at: Excellent $4,960, Good $4,510, and
Fair $3,985

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Well it was in excellent......................................... ....

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To you, yes, you are probably right. But any "flaw" the insurance company finds with the car (tear in carpet, dirty carpet, dings, slight scratches, worn tires, uncarriage rust, etc) they ding you for it.

In the eyes of the insurance company, "excellent" means damn near show room condition unfortunately.

This is how they screw people over...

Either way, I hope you get a fair amount for it that will be a good down payment for what you get in its place, if you plan to go that route.

Good luck man.

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they are going to give me $11,5XX towards mine..it will take forever to get it but that may give u an idea to gauge yours...i def. feel your pain on this..

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Your car was a 2002 WS6....BIG DIFFERENCE in value from what he had. Don't really think you can compare the two.

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Your car was a 2002 WS6....BIG DIFFERENCE in value from what he had. Don't really think you can compare the two.

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Wish you were lieing. :boxing:

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While I realize so many on the internet use KBB I would suggest you also look up your cars value on http://www.nada.com

NADA guides are what have always been used for decades by car dealers, motor vehicle departments, insurance companies, auctions etc and you will find that the NADA values take into consideration things such as mileage and that the values will be in most instances higher than KBB. Many motor vehicle departments use the official NADA guide in the event you come to register a newly purchased used car and present a real low bill of sale to try and get out of paying full sales tax. I swear that KBB is in bed with many as they list really low values so dealers can show a potential customer their trade for example isn't worth much...when in fact if the person would have checked NADA guide they would find out their vehicle is indeed worth more.


So before the fools insurance company contacts you do yourself a favor and see if NADA value is higher than KBB. Just be sure you use the CONSUMER section of NADA and best of all, it is free to look up most vehicles.

Good luck and great they caught the creep.

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While I realize so many on the internet use KBB I would suggest you also look up your cars value on http://www.nada.com

NADA guides are what have always been used for decades by car dealers, motor vehicle departments, insurance companies, auctions etc and you will find that the NADA values take into consideration things such as mileage and that the values will be in most instances higher than KBB. Many motor vehicle departments use the official NADA guide in the event you come to register a newly purchased used car and present a real low bill of sale to try and get out of paying full sales tax. I swear that KBB is in bed with many as they list really low values so dealers can show a potential customer their trade for example isn't worth much...when in fact if the person would have checked NADA guide they would find out their vehicle is indeed worth more.


So before the fools insurance company contacts you do yourself a favor and see if NADA value is higher than KBB. Just be sure you use the CONSUMER section of NADA and best of all, it is free to look up most vehicles.

Good luck and great they caught the creep.

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Tyvm, i will do that right now

Is your insurance involved in this? Here's why: If your insurance company is fighting on your side, they will often try to get what the car is worth rather than just get out of having to pay you. Totaling a vehicle means that damage exceeds 75% of the vehicle's overall value. I would have to say that from the damage I can see, you're looking at at least $3k and that is at the very least with used parts- new parts will push it well over the vehicle's value. If the interior is in good shape, the tires in good shape (minus the damage caused by the wreck) and the paint in overall good shape, you'll get a fair price on it.

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Is your insurance involved in this? Here's why: If your insurance company is fighting on your side, they will often try to get what the car is worth rather than just get out of having to pay you. Totaling a vehicle means that damage exceeds 75% of the vehicle's overall value. I would have to say that from the damage I can see, you're looking at at least $3k and that is at the very least with used parts- new parts will push it well over the vehicle's value. If the interior is in good shape, the tires in good shape (minus the damage caused by the wreck) and the paint in overall good shape, you'll get a fair price on it.

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I just got off the phone with his insurance, and they told me 2 pick a shop. They havent even seen the car yet, does that mean they just want 2 get an est.? o here r more photos i toke today during the day. to me it does look like it did to much...but then again i know a hit like that could mess up aton of things that u cant just look at.


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SHEISSE!!! Even the outer tie rod snapped!!! How fkkin fast were they goin? :eek2:

they think 50 in a 25 zone

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I just got off the phone with his insurance, and they told me 2 pick a shop. They havent even seen the car yet, does that mean they just want 2 get an est.? o here r more photos i toke today during the day. to me it does look like it did to much...but then again i know a hit like that could mess up aton of things that u cant just look at.


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I would take it to the most expensive shop you know of....

This way you have a better chance of them totaling your car out.

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I would take it to the most expensive shop you know of....

This way you have a better chance of them totaling your car out.

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thats what I would do and then get a Z28 cause them damn t/a's are way to high....

Ah, I see you are TX...welp...so is this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-...item20ae200fe4

Thats a clean one....I wish I 12 g's laying around

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Thats a clean one....I wish I 12 g's laying around

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Anyone with a 2001 WS6 with 134K miles on it and says he never raced it is a fawking LIAR!!!!

IMO of course :)

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Anyone with a 2001 WS6 with 134K miles on it and says he never raced it is a fawking LIAR!!!!

IMO of course :)

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You know thats right..lol:yum:

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I just got off the phone with his insurance, and they told me 2 pick a shop. They havent even seen the car yet, does that mean they just want 2 get an est.? o here r more photos i toke today during the day. to me it does look like it did to much...but then again i know a hit like that could mess up aton of things that u cant just look at.


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Most likely they will need it in a shop in order to do a full assessment of it. In case they need to jack it up, put it on a lift, etc. This is pretty typical. My dad is an appraiser and when I was a kid I used to go look at cars with him and he taught me a thing or two about the process. When my wife totaled our Lancer (which is when I found my excuse to buy the TA :devil: ) I had the car delivered to my house to avoid shop storage charges just in case it wasn't totaled. The insurance company then required that I send it to their shop at which time you clean EVERYTHING out of it and clean up the interior a little (shiny wheels and clean interior show that a car has been well cared for). When they totaled it, I sent the title and they sent the check.

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Most likely they will need it in a shop in order to do a full assessment of it. In case they need to jack it up, put it on a lift, etc. This is pretty typical. My dad is an appraiser and when I was a kid I used to go look at cars with him and he taught me a thing or two about the process. When my wife totaled our Lancer (which is when I found my excuse to buy the TA :devil: ) I had the car delivered to my house to avoid shop storage charges just in case it wasn't totaled. The insurance company then required that I send it to their shop at which time you clean EVERYTHING out of it and clean up the interior a little (shiny wheels and clean interior show that a car has been well cared for). When they totaled it, I sent the title and they sent the check.

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Dang ur right i should clean it extra nice tomorrow. thats a good idea.

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thats what I would do and then get a Z28 cause them damn t/a's are way to high....

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No doubt im getting one, i got some money saved up. if i couldnt get one i liked then i was thinking 350z as a last resort...i know i know ls1 kills it. but yes i would upgrade to a v8 4 sure if they did that, was thinking of selling or trading it b4 i got hit 4 a ls1.

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Easy he was probably drunk....:suicide:

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Easy he was probably drunk....:suicide:

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which they had caught him the night of, the officers were looking for him like crazy.

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which they had caught him the night of, the officers were looking for him like crazy.

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Sorry for your luck bud. Good luck getting a new bird.

Its totaled. Most companies pay you retail value iirc

Update, the other party is not accepting that they did it even with all the evidence the police has. so their insurance will not do anything until we do something. so im probly gonna have to file with my insurance and make them deal with the others insurance. it sucks

my audjuster said its about 6-8k in damages...........

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Hmmmm. Wonders who else said that.... :whistle:

Start looking for yourself a new car if you haven't already :)

Has your insurance company been involved at all? Honestly, if your insurance feels there is a case, they'll take it on and they will win in the end- if the police took pictures of the guy's car then there should be evidence of the emblem missing/broken off which could then be used to prove he did it. It's kind of like OJ Simpson leaving behind a glove... :-)

ya my insurance is involved now, since his was just doing what they r supposed to b take as long as possible. and both insurance's r some of the big boys.

And ya ive been looking just incase.....like every couple of hours XD



EDIT: If they do total it, should i try and buy the car back and part it out? and how much should i pay at most.

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ya my insurance is involved now, since his was just doing what they r supposed to b take as long as possible. and both insurance's r some of the big boys.

And ya ive been looking just incase.....like every couple of hours XD

EDIT: If they do total it, should i try and buy the car back and part it out? and how much should i pay at most.

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Good question about how much to pay for the car. Your insurance company will probably tell you what you can purchase the car back for. I am not quite sure on how they determine this. Someone else in here might know. It could be a percentage value of what the car would have been worth if not totaled.

It will then be your job to determine if you can make a profit over that amount by parting the car out. You would probably be taking a risk though (assume that you will be stuck with a lot of car parts you will need to get rid of that won't sell). Or, if you for some miraculous reason sell nothing, you will be out the money you bought the car back for.

If it were me, I would probably just take the cash and move forward.

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Good question about how much to pay for the car. Your insurance company will probably tell you what you can purchase the car back for. I am not quite sure on how they determine this. Someone else in here might know. It could be a percentage value of what the car would have been worth if not totaled.

It will then be your job to determine if you can make a profit over that amount by parting the car out. You would probably be taking a risk though (assume that you will be stuck with a lot of car parts you will need to get rid of that won't sell). Or, if you for some miraculous reason sell nothing, you will be out the money you bought the car back for.

If it were me, I would probably just take the cash and move forward.

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ya i think ur right. unless i can find free labor to fix the car =p

Double post. They are giving me 6,300 it'd b closer to 7 but the deductable. and on the price of the car they said w/e salvage value is.............

WTH, it would seem there's a bounty on T/A's lately! Sorry for your pain man!

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WTH, it would seem there's a bounty on T/A's lately! Sorry for your pain man!

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Double post. They are giving me 6,300 it'd b closer to 7 but the deductable. and on the price of the car they said w/e salvage value is.............

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You should get your deductible back once his insurance accepts fault

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ya, i think it was 350 or 750. not bad

now the search starts................

My experience has always been quick with the insurance. The only delay is going to be how long it takes an Adjuster to come look at it and how long he takes to submit his paperwork.

I have had Progressive write me a check in 24 hours when I hit a deer.

I had a lady hit me 2 years ago and it took here insurance companies adjuster 2 weeks to get it taken care of.

It really will depends, but it should not take that long.

Sorry about your car, I can't believe the damn honda was still moving after that!

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My experience has always been quick with the insurance. The only delay is going to be how long it takes an Adjuster to come look at it and how long he takes to submit his paperwork.

I have had Progressive write me a check in 24 hours when I hit a deer.

I had a lady hit me 2 years ago and it took here insurance companies adjuster 2 weeks to get it taken care of.

It really will depends, but it should not take that long.

Sorry about your car, I can't believe the damn honda was still moving after that!

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normally the car that is going faster get less damaged unless u r dealing with a much much larger mass.........hate school

Sorry about the loss dude, I purchased a sweet 4 camera setup for my house from ebay for like 400 bucks. It had the day/night vision cameras, dvr, cables, mounts and all. The companys ebay name was cctvhotdeals. Mine has been faithfully watching over all my toys for well over a year now. I dont regret buying them for a second.

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My experience has always been quick with the insurance. The only delay is going to be how long it takes an Adjuster to come look at it and how long he takes to submit his paperwork.

I have had Progressive write me a check in 24 hours when I hit a deer.

I had a lady hit me 2 years ago and it took here insurance companies adjuster 2 weeks to get it taken care of.

It really will depends, but it should not take that long.

Sorry about your car, I can't believe the damn honda was still moving after that!

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Thanks for the AutoTrix website. Lot of good things on that site!

No problem!

For what its worth- if you have a v6, rebuilding the car may not be worth it (of course that depends on what you can buy it back for.) Also, don't buy it back for parts (unless its a low mileage LS1). Unless you have the extra space to store the car, it is a real pain to try to find a junk yard to take a car that has been stripped- if they can't make anything off of it, they won't buy it. Just take what you got and put a really good start to a LS1.

[IMG]http://i63.photobucket.com/albums/h1...n/PC080203.jpg[/IMG] There we go the search for an LS1 is over. got it and happy as hell

Glad it all worked out for you. Good looking find. Enjoy it.

for 5,500 i will never complain, 1 owner also

Congrats man, I know you have got to be stoked!!

Heck of a find! Enjoy the "upgrade"!

Nice! More details on the T/A?

105k miles, sad its auto, but its still hella fun. umm all ele. works, but the radio screen and cruise control, got backed into above the rear pass. side its not that bad, cant really tell. all stock. t-tops, 5th chrome wheel. 1 owner. heard a whining noise few hours ago that went away but now im worried o well ill figure it out tomorrow

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105k miles, sad its auto, but its still hella fun. umm all ele. works, but the radio screen and cruise control, got backed into above the rear pass. side its not that bad, cant really tell. all stock. t-tops, 5th chrome wheel. 1 owner. heard a whining noise few hours ago that went away but now im worried o well ill figure it out tomorrow

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you'll get used to it:lmao: anyways good buy:thumbup:, i was a different person when i upgraded from v6->v8

So, what's happened with the other driver, and his insurance? Any updates on that? And, welcome to LS1 world, you can make an auto fun to drive, stall it and remove the torque management.

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So, what's happened with the other driver, and his insurance? Any updates on that? And, welcome to LS1 world, you can make an auto fun to drive, stall it and remove the torque management.

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U mean the TCS? and no update, my insurance and the police r doing their own thing. Last I heard from the detective is that the guy keeps saying it wasnt him but that wouldnt matter in court with everything they collected

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no torque management is different

i think ima leave it stock as far as that goes, maybe just lower it 1.5" or 2", and remote start and 18's black with chrome lip. hmm other then that well ls6 intake 2. other then that i wanna keep it for awhile then try and trade for m6. city driving has become alot more brain dead kinda thing.