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06-29-2009, 01:57 PM
midnightnavyz28

400 rwhp

Hey guys, last summer my car became a garage queen and i started modding w/ 400 rwhp 385 rwtq dynojet goal....im having the car tuned this week then dyno'd......i thought i should have around 400rwhp...but all my friends say im crazy and i might have 350-360 @ the wheels......then again they drive mustangs and imports :boxing:...what u LS1 guys think? .....i have a 2000 camaro z28 6-speed.... 90k miles......$1500 worth of suspension upgrades....springs, SFC, LCA's etc. etc........5.0 shifter, 3.73 gears( rearend freshend up w/ new seals), LS7 clutch, slp lid ( k&n filter) ported TB, FAST intake, Hooker Competition full-length headers, hi-flow cats, dynomax bullets( custom 2.5" true duals dumped b4 axle), 160' t-stat, new belts alt plugs wires(8.8mm) etc.....1 of comp cams new LSR series camshaft....i cant remember the exact lift...its not very big....their techs recommended it for my app.....comp 918 springs timing chain hardened push rods LS7 oil pump etc....basically my car has full bolt ons w/ a small cam...no corners cut...shouldnt i be @ 400???? :look: ....ohh and a professional tune
06-29-2009, 01:58 PM
Zboner

no, prolly what your friends are saying is correct.
06-29-2009, 02:01 PM
midnightnavyz28

damn.....can LS1's not hit 400 rwhp w/out forced induction/ nitrous or head work?? ...cause ive got alot of money invested in this thing....and said parts would really cost...plus i have jl audio system and around a grand in appearance mods....i coulda skipped corners on the susp. looks and hit big numbers w/ what i spent...but i wanted to build a complete car....not for racing just as my summer/weekend toy
06-29-2009, 02:04 PM
johno

put a cam in then you will have 400hp that what i did then later i put heads on now have 460hp it takes time hang in there.
06-29-2009, 02:29 PM
midnightnavyz28

yeah ...i just finished college....the cars paid off and ive invested over 6k in mods.....dont care to put anymore cash in2 it besides maint....plus cars only gonna be driven around 1k miles a yr if that, purchasing a hom in the near future...plus im engaged...so kids soon prolly yikessss lol
06-29-2009, 02:40 PM
Mr. Luos

I need the cam specs in order to give you an idea of power output.

Although, I never recommend having a dyno number goal. Set an ET goal...since those numbers can't lie. Dyno's can vary greatly from day to day even.

Can you hit 400RWHP with bolt-ons and a cam?? Certainly.
Should be more concerned with getting into the 11's though with a cam. :)
06-29-2009, 02:56 PM
midnightnavyz28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

I need the cam specs in order to give you an idea of power output.

Although, I never recommend having a dyno number goal. Set an ET goal...since those numbers can't lie. Dyno's can vary greatly from day to day even.

Can you hit 400RWHP with bolt-ons and a cam?? Certainly.
Should be more concerned with getting into the 11's though with a cam. :)

thx .....well yeah....the hp numbers were just a starting point...i hope to be atleast low 12's.....not that ill ever go to the strip...i have c5 zo6 wrapped in bfg's 17x9.5 up front & 18x10.5 w/ bfg street radials n the rear....the cam is a comp cam LSR 54-458-11 "good street/strip cam with a wide range" .....spec.....227/235 .614/.621 113LSA
06-29-2009, 03:01 PM
pjeff7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

I need the cam specs in order to give you an idea of power output.
Should be more concerned with getting into the 11's though with a cam. :)

+1

like curtis said, you want to shoot for et goal rather than a HP goal. With your gears and suspension upgrades you're heading in the right direction for improved et times. But lets face it, the only mods you have that add any real power is the FAST and the LTs. We would need the specs of that cam to get you a better idea of the power you will be making
06-29-2009, 03:56 PM
Mr. Luos

Should be close.
06-29-2009, 05:57 PM
0verkill

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Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

Should be close.

it should be around the 400 mark. i made your 400 rwhp and the 385 whit a cam and stock intake.
06-29-2009, 06:29 PM
manyponies

400 RWHP is obtainable with out power adders for sure. Especially on a Dynojet. We made 415 with a customers car a few months ago on our Mustang dyno. Ours is stingy even for a Mustang. 2900 lb cars making 360 RWHP go 10.60'. The firebird that we did is a very durable street car.
Mods we performed
Heads
MME custom cam
Rocker system
Intake
Throttle Body
Headers

Before tuning we made 387 RWHP
06-30-2009, 10:46 AM
Dr.Crash

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Originally Posted by midnightnavyz28

yeah ...i just finished college....the cars paid off and ive invested over 6k in mods.....dont care to put anymore cash in2 it besides maint....plus cars only gonna be driven around 1k miles a yr if that, purchasing a hom in the near future...plus im engaged...so kids soon prolly yikessss lol

if only it was that easy.............. That whole just say no thing doesn't work
06-30-2009, 12:45 PM
midnightnavyz28

lol....like being a smoker an sayn " i can quit whenever i want " lol...but yeah...im finished modding my car now....i had a vision for what i wanted when i started, now ill drive it and enjoy it for 6-7 yrs until i can get a new camaro :cheers:
06-30-2009, 12:49 PM
Dr.Crash

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Originally Posted by midnightnavyz28

lol....like being a smoker an sayn " i can quit whenever i want " lol...but yeah...im finished modding my car now....i had a vision for what i wanted when i started, now ill drive it and enjoy it for 6-7 yrs until i can get a new camaro :cheers:

you got it! :lol: but as long as your happy with your car, thats all that matters. That was my problem, i never am. :spit:
06-30-2009, 01:03 PM
midnightnavyz28

haha yeah u guys are like my dad....he bought a stock restored '69 chevelle ss 4his self when he retired and swore he wouldnt change a thing causeas a child "it was his dream car" ...that was 4 yrs ago.....now although its still street legal, its blown running low 10's :nana: ......besides ima have my hands full w/ my fiance telln me to sell it much less spend more money on it:ar: ...my car my house my rules....until i say i do lol
06-30-2009, 02:17 PM
midnightnavyz28

UPDATE ......i dropped my car @ the shop 2 weeks ago for cam install 2 finally finish my mods....a family friend owns a shop & has done all the work...well i stopped by 2 see how it was going and my comp cam that was suppose 2 be in last week still hasnt shipped :brick: ....if it isnt in by friday ( or atleast shipped) im cancelling and looking elsewhere..... where should i look 4 a different cam?? ...nothing radical jus a nice small lift w/ a nice tone & broad power curve
06-30-2009, 02:18 PM
Dr.Crash

check with texas speed. they can get just about anything and have super fast turn around and shipping time.
06-30-2009, 02:28 PM
midnightnavyz28

ok thx...u recommend any particular brand camshaft? im not a huge gearhead and comp was the 1 that came to mind
06-30-2009, 02:30 PM
Dr.Crash

comp cams is a great company, they might just have a really crappy shipping system. lol

what were the specs on that cam? here is the link

http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/cate...MID=1&catid=44
06-30-2009, 02:31 PM
Dr.Crash

better yet you can call them and tell them what you are looking for from your car and they will recomend a cam for you
06-30-2009, 02:36 PM
midnightnavyz28

specs for the Comp Cam LSR i ordered...... 227/235 .614/.621 113LSA ....they recommended it for my application
06-30-2009, 02:45 PM
Dr.Crash

thats pretty big for a DD. or is it not a DD? either way from texas speed you can order a custom grind. so if you want you can stick with the same specs. texas speed also has a line of cams that they have put together. you may want to check into those. what is your application?
06-30-2009, 02:54 PM
midnightnavyz28

car has 90k miles.....was dd now shes a garage queen....plan on driving 800-1000 miles a year... i was told it was a mild cam?? i dont want anything over the top ....all i have is FAST intake & Hooker LT...cams my last power add mod.
06-30-2009, 02:58 PM
Dr.Crash

Quote:

Originally Posted by midnightnavyz28

car has 90k miles.....was dd now shes a garage queen....plan on driving 800-1000 miles a year... i was told it was a mild cam?? i dont want anything over the top ....all i have is FAST intake & Hooker LT...cams my last power add mod.

its not over the top at all. i had a 230/230 and it was just a little much for a DD. not bad but it wore on me. i have heard alot of people that have liked the MS series cams MS3,MS4. if it is not a DD they wouldnt be to much either
06-30-2009, 02:59 PM
midnightnavyz28

what do you mean by too much for a dd?
06-30-2009, 03:09 PM
Mr. Luos

Quote:

Originally Posted by midnightnavyz28

specs for the Comp Cam LSR i ordered...... 227/235 .614/.621 113LSA ....they recommended it for my application

That is a high lift cam, but fairly mild in terms of some of the larger cam apps.

Personally, I would go for a 228R from TSP on a 114 if she is a daily driver.
Just about all shops use COMP blanks for their grinds. The cams I have gotten from shops have been in COMP boxes. :)
06-30-2009, 03:10 PM
Dr.Crash

Quote:

Originally Posted by midnightnavyz28

what do you mean by too much for a dd?

that once nice idle with the stock cam turns into a beast. so with a bigger cam your gas mileage will drop alittle, if you have a stick in traffic......it sucks lol. more or less its just drivability. now i drove it like that for a long time. but thinking back i would have much rather waited untill i had a second car like i do now. although i still drive my SS just about every day. i just cant take my own advice. Here is my car before the new motor.

http://www.youtube.com/user/t56ls1ss.../8/pBB6t6LBCqo
06-30-2009, 03:19 PM
midnightnavyz28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

That is a high lift cam, but fairly mild in terms of some of the larger cam apps.

Personally, I would go for a 228R from TSP on a 114 if she is a daily driver.
Just about all shops use COMP blanks for their grinds. The cams I have gotten from shops have been in COMP boxes. :)

car has 90k miles...but is now garage queen
06-30-2009, 03:21 PM
Mr. Luos

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Originally Posted by midnightnavyz28

car has 90k miles...but is now garage queen

Then get a Torquer2. :)
Or call TSP, Futral, etc and get custom specs.

I like the mid-range cams for street cars. Stuff in the 228 to 234 duration range, right around .590" to .600" lift, and on a 113 or 114 LSA.
06-30-2009, 03:22 PM
midnightnavyz28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr.Crash

that once nice idle with the stock cam turns into a beast. so with a bigger cam your gas mileage will drop alittle, if you have a stick in traffic......it sucks lol. more or less its just drivability. now i drove it like that for a long time. but thinking back i would have much rather waited untill i had a second car like i do now. although i still drive my SS just about every day. i just cant take my own advice. Here is my car before the new motor.

http://www.youtube.com/user/t56ls1ss.../8/pBB6t6LBCqo

that sound screams muscle car :flex: ..thanks for all the advice/info!! ill try2 stay updated on what happens
06-30-2009, 03:23 PM
midnightnavyz28

I like the mid-range cams for street cars. Stuff in the 228 to 234 duration range, right around .590" to .600" lift, and on a 113 or 114 LSA.[/QUOTE]

that would be little bit milder cam from what i have on order (227/235 .614/.621 113LSA), right?
06-30-2009, 03:28 PM
Mr. Luos

Quote:

Originally Posted by midnightnavyz28

that would be little bit milder cam from what i have on order (227/235 .614/.621 113LSA), right?

The cam they spec'd out for you basicly falls into that mid-range area I am referring too.
06-30-2009, 04:57 PM
0verkill

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

Then get a Torquer2. :)
Or call TSP, Futral, etc and get custom specs.

I like the mid-range cams for street cars. Stuff in the 228 to 234 duration range, right around .590" to .600" lift, and on a 113 or 114 LSA.

im with you i have the torquer2 and love it. its a good street cam for sure.
07-01-2009, 03:57 PM
manyponies

Here is a youtube of 40000hp.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV8bxBoEjgU

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