Oppinions on loaning stuff out

So at what point do you cut off those that ask to borrow your stuff?

In the past i've always helped people out by loaning my time, labor, tools, trailer, and even my truck to friends. Although after being taken advantage of a few times it just seems to change my outlook now on helping others.

So now my view point leans more towards you need a truck or trailer... rent it or buy it. I make the payments because i needed it, if you "need" one make the payments.

If i'm helping with labor, at least have a plan to what you are doing before i show up. In other words have your junk packed before the labor arrives. I shouldn't have to waste more time waiting for you to unhook electronics, dismantle beds, and put stuff in boxes.

Maybe i'm just an overly self-reliant person because i always rent or buy what i need.



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If I borrow something of yours it will damned sure come back in as good, if not better shape than when you loaned it to me.
Some beer or food will also come your way, or some other small thing like a free round of golf etc..
Maybe not that very day, but I always repay a kindness.

it depends. i'm borrowing a friends set of ratchet wrenches right now...but he told me i should try them out cause i'd really like them...and he's right. he'll get them back exactly as he let me borrow them. it's not my stuff so i respect it.

for good friends they get to borrow my stuff. for people that i don't know as well they usually don't get to borrow it unless i'm there to watch them use it.

I have been screwed over by a few people. I have loaned money, car parts and other items to friends which i have never been payed back. I would say prolly close to 5k worth of stuff. Once you screw me over i will never help again.

So if someone said they were going to return the uhaul truck to save the mileage/rental expenses, then in the same breath turned and asked to borrow your pick up to finish moving things... do you loan it?

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Originally Posted by gonzo99ta

So if someone said they were going to return the uhaul truck to save the mileage/rental expenses, then in the same breath turned and asked to borrow your pick up to finish moving things... do you loan it?

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depends who they are. If i would borrow it i would return it with a full tank of gas

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Originally Posted by Nhra Firebird

depends who they are. If i would borrow it i would return it with a full tank of gas

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So even if you know they could afford the rental fee, you would loan it?

Maybe it's just my own self-reliance, but i personally would not ask to borrow someones truck so i could save $25 on extra rental day.



Maybe it's more a question of at what point you ask to borrow stuff vs rent/buy your own stuff.

Uhaul is in the business of renting trucks, if it breaks while you are renting it, that is covered by the rental fee.

when you borrow a truck from a friend and something major breaks while you are driving then who pays? Could kill a freindship real quick...

i will loan anything out to friends. i normally help them out anytime too.

canI borrow your ws6?

if i borrow something its usually re-payed with beer or food

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Originally Posted by gonzo99ta

So even if you know they could afford the rental fee, you would loan it?

Maybe it's just my own self-reliance, but i personally would not ask to borrow someones truck so i could save $25 on extra rental day.



Maybe it's more a question of at what point you ask to borrow stuff vs rent/buy your own stuff.

Uhaul is in the business of renting trucks, if it breaks while you are renting it, that is covered by the rental fee.

when you borrow a truck from a friend and something major breaks while you are driving then who pays? Could kill a freindship real quick...

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I know what you're saying... I would never ask to borrow a truck if i had the rental truck, but it is a lot of cheap stupid fucks in this world. I also hate saying no to a good friend or family member.

I'm w/ derek, I'll loan and help.... but if you screw me.... Sorry for your luck.
I had a friend that we helped back and forth all the time.... till he decided to steal one of my motorcycles.... we have this stuff called "threadweld" in the oilfield...
I just removed his draglites... applied liberally to his wheel hub mating surface, and lug studs, then replaced his wheels and torqued them properly... 5 days later, I cut all 4 tires :D

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Originally Posted by Modulistic

canI borrow your ws6?

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haha dont think so. i have let one of my friends drive it.

Another situation i had...

I'm out of town on vacation. I rented a car for the trip to save the wear, mileage, and offset fuel costs. it was worth it to me.
I get a call a from a friend, who knows i rented a car for my trip (he is keeping an eye on the house) and wants to borrow my truck to move some stuff. Let him borrow it and when i get back i find out, the stuff he needed to move was out of town and he put like 300 miles on my truck.

So i end up spending money to save mileage on my truck only to have someone else put miles on it. :slap: Oh, and no offers for dinner or expense coverage. This from someone that had an suv and could have easily rented a small trailer to move the stuff.

I have lost over the years to people
1.1800 in cash that i loaned out.
2.brand new complete baer brake system.
3.nitrous kit
4.100 dollars

you guys sound like all the housing loan bankers... all whining about lending shit out and not getting it back. just get a damn bailout already.

Another "friend" asked to borrow one of our vehicles to go to a doctors appt since they only had one car and it would be used by the husband to go to work. When my wife offered instead to driver her to the appt it turns out the "friend" really just wanted to go shopping.
:wtf: i work hard to pay for my shit, if you can afford to go shopping you can afford a second car.

It's people like this that assume/percieve that i have more than them, and that i should share it, that ruin it for the next person that asks and may really need help.

I don't loan shit unless it's family..that way I know i'm getting it back in the same condition I never loaned it out in.

I dont mind lending certain things to GOOD friends, but never to people that i barely know or are friend of a friends. I hate loaning out tools to someone that is always putting expensive parts on their car because they obviously have money, let them buy their own tools. Or take the damn car to a shop. I cant stand wanna be mechanics. The biggest thing that pisses me off is loaning shit and just not getting it back. I truly think a lot of people borrow shit hoping that they are just gonna keep it.

That being said best friends, family etc i loan. I like helping them out.

Imake my living w/ snap-on tools..... DON'T ASK TO BORROW THEM... :lol:

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Originally Posted by FORD RECOVERY EXPERT

Imake my living w/ snap-on tools..... DON'T ASK TO BORROW THEM... :lol:

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yeah! RAWR! haha i loan my expensive tools at work to techs all the time the ones that understand what its like to buy them and have stuff i dont have. then i dont mind. But its those shadetree guys that dont have jack shit for tools or a toolbox full of useless miscellaneous standard stanley and craftsman shit that i have a problem with. They dont understand what its like to buy snap on stuff, they borrow yours and realize how nice it is and try and keep it or beat on it like its a 10 dollar craftsman piece of shit.

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Depends how big your boobs are.

At least I'm honest....

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Originally Posted by Smkn_TA

Depends how big your boobs are.

At least I'm honest....

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so you would sign your paycheck over to orion?

Well i loaned my parents $21,000 and they almost got my paid back so im not worried there. I borrowed my sister $350 and i have only got half back and that was 8 months ago that i borrowed that i hope i get that back. ANd just last month i borrowed a good friend $3350 which i hope to get back. I guess i dont have a problem borrowing money as long as i get it back but as soon as everyone gets me my money paid back i am done borrowing money to people. The way i look at it time is money and if i dont get that money back than that is alot of wasted time.

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Originally Posted by clint195

Well i loaned my parents $21,000 and they almost got my paid back so im not worried there. I borrowed my sister $350 and i have only got half back and that was 8 months ago that i borrowed that i hope i get that back. ANd just last month i borrowed a good friend $3350 which i hope to get back. I guess i dont have a problem borrowing money as long as i get it back but as soon as everyone gets me my money paid back i am done borrowing money to people. The way i look at it time is money and if i dont get that money back than that is alot of wasted time.

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damn dude you have a lot of money for a 23 yr old lol rarely does someone in their 20's loan their parents a sum of money that high lol

Well i really owe it to my parents tell you the truth. I do live in there house yet and dont pay no rent. I basically paid off my parents garage and in return i got to live here rent free. I have been saving my money for 4 years last month. To be exact i have 94K to my name including the money ppl owe me. But when they get me paid off i am going to have to pay rent but not much.

This thread reminds me of my former best friend. He bought his house and his wife immediately fkked it up. Wanted to make a walk through where a closet was and we knocked the wall down. She wanted new flooring...we did that. She began to clutter up the entire house. FAIL. Started giving us attitude for her mistakes...WRONG!! End result...my best friend and myself no longer speak. I got tired of his wife's sh1t VERY quickly. I tell people now that I am indeed a selfish a$$hole...and I have my car to show for it if anyone thinks I'm B.S.ing them.

I HATE USERS!!!

If I borrow something from someone else I make it my business to return it in the condition it was loaned to me.

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Originally Posted by cammed goat

This thread reminds me of my former best friend. He bought his house and his wife immediately fkked it up. Wanted to make a walk through where a closet was and we knocked the wall down. She wanted new flooring...we did that. She began to clutter up the entire house. FAIL. Started giving us attitude for her mistakes...WRONG!! End result...my best friend and myself no longer speak. I got tired of his wife's sh1t VERY quickly. I tell people now that I am indeed a selfish a$$hole...and I have my car to show for it if anyone thinks I'm B.S.ing them.

I HATE USERS!!!

If I borrow something from someone else I make it my business to return it in the condition it was loaned to me.

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Yeah people can be shitty i know what you mean. It is always a gamble when you borrow something out. All i know is that i would always pay someone back or return something asap. I would never do a person wrong. I guess you find out who your real friends are sooner or later.

One thing I have learned, is if a friend is going to buy something off me, I want every last penny in my hand before they take it. I've been on too many "payment plans" where we agree on a set amount paid each month, and they don't abide to it.

Let a friend buy some wheels and tires for 800$ in August of last year. We agreed, 100$ per month. To this date, I have only received 350$.

I let my dad borrow $6,800 when my parents split up. He said he would pay me back, with interest, when we sold the sold and moved into something smaller....
We moved 5 months ago, and I have gotten 500$ back from him.

I fixed my brothers computer for 150$, took him 6 months to pay me back.

there has been times I needed a van to get my Tv's or other big things and I would always fill up my uncles tank and some beer would always hit the spot also the most important part just saying Thank you...

As long as they understand I want it back in the exact same shape I loaned it I'm OK. Fuck me once and don't ever ask for anything from me again. So far so good. Very few have screwed me.

I used to be good about letting others borrow my stuff. Over the last few years my views have also changed because my stuff gets returned broken if even returned at all. Ill only borrow out something if I have collateral against the items...

I don't mind helping people out but I never lend tools or equip. Lending sometimes tends to create forgetfullness. My fav is the "well it worked when I used it"! Best to not lend tools. Money seems to have the same effect sometimes too. They can rent tools.

I have had to borrow a few things before, but always make sure the item is returned in the same shape or better, such as me cleaning the item for them or what not. I had to borrow my step dads pickup to bring a couple of cars home. i racked up about 350 miles on his truck, i made sure the tank was full of gas, and ui changed the oil for him, cuz i saw the sticker he had was about due for one. i said thank you, and he said thank you. dont burn bridges so to speak......although my step dad got burned 2 years ago...he was on vacatiojn 2 years ago, had his brother come over and borrow a snowmobile that was an extra to him, and borrowed his pickup to get the snowmobile home.knew my step dad was gone for 2 weeks so just pleasure drove his pickup all over the place and even loaned it to his kids or friends. well his daughter got in it drunk one night and rolled the truck out in a corn field in the middle of nowhere and left it. well needless to say my step dad had to buy a new truck...and also no longer has that snowmobile due to them blowing it up and leaving it for dead...we know this personally cuz my step dad and i tried taking it back this past winter...saw it in pieces here and there and wrecked....was enough to piss us both off...

I haven't read any responses - but after my car trailer got smashed by someone I lent it out to, I just won't do it anymore, and that pretty much goes for anything. I've made a few exceptions on some things since then, but I'm very reluctant to.

Even if it was, or wasn't necessarily his fault, if anyone's going to being wrecking my stuff, I want it to be me.

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Originally Posted by Modulistic

canI borrow your ws6?

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:lmao:

Neither a Lender, nor a Borrower Be.
Words of advice I live by.
Time and advice are somewhat free...
You get what you pay for.

Been burned too many times to trust anyone, especially the ones that whine

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Originally Posted by Poppn

I fixed my brothers computer for 150$, took him 6 months to pay me back.

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You charged your own fucking brother to fix his computer? Unless you had to buy hardware, that was total bullshit. You know how many times I've had to drop and reinstall windows on my brothers computer, install new graphics cards, or just fix bugs. I've never charged him anything.

As a side question, is is prostitution if I lend a chick money for promise of sex, and I don't expect to get the money back? How does that work?

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Originally Posted by Sarge

As long as they understand I want it back in the exact same shape I loaned it I'm OK. Fuck me once and don't ever ask for anything from me again. So far so good. Very few have screwed me.

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+1

....also my time is valuable. I don't mind helping friends and neighbors but don't waste my time...If you are don't be surprised when I leave and tell you so.....

i could go on and on about this subject. usually if it's not too big i'll loan out a thing or two, but if you don't do me any favors it won't last long. i know some guys that like to eat off me and now i guess i am a dick cuz i won't give them things any more. owell, they are not much of a friend anyways.

i always give people a chance if it's not too expensive, even family can be really bad about loaning things to

i'm sure we've all had that experience where someone fucked something up...i use to loan out movie and one came back all sticky and scratched...frickin syrup on it. so i stopped doing that

Also hate to say, but it tends to be friends and family that screws you. I love my family members but I would'nt loan them damn thing. Been burned more by my family and friends than total strangers. In my oppinion the reason friends and family do these things is because they know you the best. They know exactly how to get over on or just get to you. They know all the tricks for getting you to do what they wont.
Years ago a family member was "desperate" and needed to borrow some money to pay thier rent. I agreed to help but knew deep down the money was'nt really going to help.
Well because of thier personal issues. Sure enough at the end of the next month...
I get that call "I'm in trouble", "can't make rent this month". They said they were going to lose their apartment and maybe have to live in a homeless shelter. So I helped them again. You see where this is going? Here they are end of next month asking for money. Fed up I said, "I guess you'll just have to live in a shelter sorry, but I'm not a bank"! To this day they would'nt even dare ask me for a damn thing. That expirience made me lean towards not lending anything to anyone. Sometimes I think people gotta do what they need to do for themselves, without help from others.

Sorry if I sound like a dick to some. But I'm the most accomplished in my family by the age 0f 28. Worked my way to have my own company. Now at 35 I have my own family and they come first. I don't have time for "middle aged" family members and "friends" who never really wanted to do what it takes to get up and out of thier situations.

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Originally Posted by allbaugh_04

i know some guys that like to eat off me and now i guess i am a dick cuz i won't give them things any more.

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I have this 'friend' that is a good guy but about the only time he'll call is when he needs something.

So, the last time he called and asked to borrow my car trailer I pretty much turned him down and said, "you know, my trailer isn't a 'community car trailer'." He wasn't happy about it, but he knows where I stand. I told my best friend about it and this friend of mine also asks my best friend for favors like this too.......so now it's a running joke. He borrowed my best friends 'community shop saw' last week. :lol:

In most instances all you'd have to do is ask me to haul the car for you and help me load it up and unload it, and that'd be enough for me. I've learned that I just want to be in control of my own property.

Its funny you mention this. I just helped a friend with a kitchen remodel. I was brought in for the kitchen sink and to install the dishwasher. 11 hours over the course of 2 days. They had no plan, and I had shit to do. 11 hours. His bill was just over 120$, for the parts. Some at cost, others a bit over, and tax. Friggin' rediculous.

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Originally Posted by Smkn_TA

You charged your own fucking brother to fix his computer? Unless you had to buy hardware, that was total bullshit. You know how many times I've had to drop and reinstall windows on my brothers computer, install new graphics cards, or just fix bugs. I've never charged him anything.

As a side question, is is prostitution if I lend a chick money for promise of sex, and I don't expect to get the money back? How does that work?

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it was just for the hardware. I paid out of my pocket to get the hardware and install for free, he agreed to pay me back for the hardware.

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Originally Posted by Smittro

Also hate to say, but it tends to be friends and family that screws you.

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althought money can come between a family, i would still help out a family member that was TRULY in need. It may not be the help they were asking for, but i would still help them.
after my father had a stroke, we helped him financially to pay his mortgage for a few months until he got disability to kick in and help. Once the disability kicked in he started complaining he did not have enough money... we told him he needed to adjust his lifestyle to his new lower income as we were not there to support him the rest of his life, just to help when he needed it. He got pissed that no one was helping him, because we would not help the way he wanted us to.

i would do it again because you always stand behind family, although it's always on my terms... beggers can't be choosers!

All depends on the situation for me. Normally dont loan anything out thanks to bad luck I've had.
Loaned an '03 R6 to a buddy to ride, 16yr old chick cut a corner and hit him head on. Luckily it was slow speeds, but needless to say bike was total'd.

Right before christmas, cousin was driving my 07 RX8. 95yr old woman turned into him. Car--Total'd.
Granted neither of these were the fault of friend and cousin. But, its just not worth it to loan anything out much anymore.

I depends on who. If I get burned once from someone then I won't help them or lend them anything again.

Ones i know i can depend on i'll help out. Though, after I moved (first time in 6 years) and only one friend helped out, the list shrunk drastically. This, after I've moved more than a dozen friends/relatives over the years. Sometime multiple times. Ever want to know whose really there for you, move to a new house and see who actually helps you with it.

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Originally Posted by Nhra Firebird

I have been screwed by a few people. I have never payed. I would say 5k worth of screw.

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I had a friend ask me to borrow money yesterday. This was a larger amount of money than I think I should loan out. I gave a few alternatives and offerred to help out some and even basically gave her $150, offerred to help her sell off some of her stuff that she has stored.

Other than that, I'm pretty cool about loaning whatever I have if someone needs it. If I loan you something and I don't get it back, don't bother asking for something else.

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Originally Posted by gonzo99ta

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althought money can come between a family, i would still help out a family member that was TRULY in need. It may not be the help they were asking for, but i would still help them.
after my father had a stroke, we helped him financially to pay his mortgage for a few months until he got disability to kick in and help. Once the disability kicked in he started complaining he did not have enough money... we told him he needed to adjust his lifestyle to his new lower income as we were not there to support him the rest of his life, just to help when he needed it. He got pissed that no one was helping him, because we would not help the way he wanted us to.

i would do it again because you always stand behind family, although it's always on my terms... beggers can't be choosers!

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Yeah that makes total sence to me. I agree about helping family too. However, I had to draw the line when I was seeing that they were not doing what was needed to help themselves. I feel you did the right thing helping cause your Dad had health troubles. In my case they were just begining to rely on me to bail them out. Because I have it like that. They had jobs but dont know how to manage their money. Aswell as other personal issues they were not dealing with. If they had health problems I'd gladly help them. But They dont and were starting to think I'd give them money when ever they asked for it.

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Originally Posted by Smittro

Sorry if I sound like a dick to some. But I'm the most accomplished in my family by the age 0f 28. Worked my way to have my oun company. Now at 35 I have my oun family and they come first. I don't have time for "middle aged" family members and "friends" who never really wanted to do what it takes to get up and out of thier situations.

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Eh, you don't sound like a dick. It's "own" I think that you're trying to say though.

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Originally Posted by Smittro

Yep cant spell to save my life.LOL Thanx:lol: I was excellent math student but a terible grammer student!LOL!

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It's possible that you were a terrible grammar student too.

:lmao:

At least you know it. :nana:

Does anybody have a sister they want to lend me?