Got told that the last of the 6.0L’s parts are en route to the shop. Now I need to work a time to drop Gracie off.
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Got told that the last of the 6.0L’s parts are en route to the shop. Now I need to work a time to drop Gracie off.
I've been hearing a lot of ppl been going thru hell getting parts in.
Man,, it's been awhile since I've been on this site. I haven't done a whole lot to the T/A this year except take it auto X'ing twice. Coming home from the last one it poured down rain on me so I had to re-detail it. Getting it ready for semi-winter hibernation = I-ll bring it out on unusually nice Md. winter days just to keep things moving. I think I'll go out now and take the race wheels/tires off and put on ones that won't complain in temps under 40 deg.
Santa has come early for me.....:devil:
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Drove the WS6 to Richmond. Tomorrow AM, Gracie gets dropped off to Jason for the 6.0 build install and a few other things.
Still have 2/3 of a tank of gas, from Harford County to Richmond.
getting my black bird back on the road been to long just pick up a rack and pinon
Today, technically nothing, but I remembered to check in here. Early this week, after months of having to oversee repairs of many different secondary parts of the aging TA, I got to do a little street cat-and-mouse with a much-newer, higher-end sports car (maybe a Ferrari, if those have loud engines). The one thing about my car that has almost never let me down is the engine. With speed limits and obstacles, I can keep up with a better car and then quit and head down a different road before I lose :wave:
K member, upper and lower a arms have been ordered from UMI. K member has come in but a arms are on back order. Waiting on my new Pinon yoke to come in from Strange. goes from factory style 1330 u joint to 1350. once it's in I can do the rear diff. :woot:
Barely drove it, just for errands. Still some employee outside the store asked (a first) if it was "LS" and then gave a compliment. I never start the interactions with the strangers who say the nice things. It's one of the few benefits of owning this car. Its cost of operation and resale value are terrible. It's like the automotive equivalent of a visibly aging, still kinda hot blonde with "issues." The belle of low-brow sports cars. People like it more than they should. Even I wouldn't trade it for a somewhat more expensive, newer sedan with much lower mileage.
prices have come up. some to stupid levels of idiocy. Mine is never for sale. Hell my daughter has laid claim to it if I ever leave this planet.
I get compliments, gawking and envious looks all the time. Sometimes the occasional idiot that names every other brand/model but the right one and then swears they owned the fastest factory freak back in 199x. Or better yet argue with me with what I've done or have in it. Mofo please :gtfo: I got the receipts....
I didn't drive at all today. This winter I've been driving as little as I ever have since college....
Besides pushing the car a bit while driving and eyeing it myself, one of the only benefits is others' reactions. I've never gotten into an argument with anyone offline about it. I automatically minimize my interactions with strangers, many of whom seem sketchy. "Thanks" or an answer to a question usually is how it ends. At worst, "No, sorry, not selling it" and/or "You wouldn't want to buy it because...."
It doesn't happen every time I go out. just once and a while at cruise ins or car meets
Oh. I've never been to one of those.
I drove my car across the street. It has been ill. The reason why was part of an angry discussion I had with a few people recently. There's no fun in a sports car that isn't running well.
My car feels back to normal and so I went. I had to use metered parking at one point and just as I was going to put change in an old guy told me he was leaving and had an hour-and-a-half left on the spot ahead of mine. I thanked him and waited for him to pull out in his sports car (not sure what type but it was modern). Then I pulled up and there was no time on that meter:hmm: Maybe he was senile or devious and trying to trick me into a ticket. One of my weirdest parking experiences ever.
I got a clown saying "Knight rider" while I was about to exit my car. Wrong decade, guy. I hardly acknowledged him.
Has anyone driven past another TA recently? I haven't seen one on the road this year and maybe since before the pandemic.
I seen several in my area.
Okay. Maybe 4th-gen cars were never common around here. I wasn't living here in the previous century and can only guess. Gas prices possibly were already relatively high, and those cars guzzle gas. I do think most owners of them here dumped them in favor of 21st-century muscle cars, despite those being in my opinion kind of brick-like ugly.
On the other hand, as I drive less, I'll see fewer of any cars.
My 2.5 miles today included this experience:
Me being unable to resist staring at an older woman with visibly messed-up legs standing feet away from a wheelchair panhandling at an intersection and her then saying something to me with my window rolled up. It wasn't making much sense. She clarified. "You don't see many of these anymore, Pontiac Trans Ams." And she was right! I was thinking about that before I reached the intersection and thought of a reason.....
It's worse when they're mentally sound but physically disabled and homeless probably due to bad luck. But that setup is so common for scammers and so disruptive that no way I'll give money. I only nodded at her.
Getting some fun stuff ready to go on.
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I'm almost sure I saw tonight my first F-body in a long, long time. It was gray, probably a 4th-gen Camaro SS. Parked near me as I headed off briefly. I think a few hours earlier a newer Mustang GT might have been trying to show off in front of me. It was accelerating fast and loudly and weaving past other vehicles and I just drove normally and caught up to it soon. Mustangs,:nono:
Meet up with a local group yesterday for lunch. Had a 3rd Gen with a LS1 conversion so clean it didn't even sound like an LS until he hit the pedal. It was good to finally meet some fellow F Bodies that we haven't gotten together in a yr or 2.
I thought about my WS6 today, cant wait to get it back after the engine swap. Should be noce weather about then.
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Originally Posted by Whamhammer
Good question, I haven’t really put a rush on it, being its over the winter, its cold, and I am working from home and have a 2nd vehicle that I can drive. I would rather things take their time and do it right, instead of a rush job.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMWS6TA
I moved from my town home, to a single family home, and that pulled me away from getting the car to him for the Fall, so I had already Borked the timeline up. Just cleared a spot for the WS6 to stay in the garage, so I am excited for that!
I am going to hit him up, later in the week, and see how things are going; there is always something that is going to come up in an engine swap on a 20 year old (wow, I bought it when it was only 4 1/2 years old!), 220,000 mile car.
At least with all of the leaking oil seals, I am hoping things arent rusted up lol.
yep I used to have that problemQuote:
Originally Posted by silverWS6
man that sounds great Army Dude!!Quote:
Originally Posted by robcas47
that suxxxQuote:
Originally Posted by BANDITO
Latest adventures, a trip full of errands. It's almost always that or repairs. But I saw two red 4th-gen cars (which I don't even see yearly). One was a low-end Camaro circa 1995, parked next to a discount store. I literally nearly bumped into a late-era Bird on my last stop, I recognized it immediately from the headlights, and we blocked lot traffic to discuss the convergence of the rarities. That was my first time ever talking in the real world with another Bird's owner. His last question to me was kind of weird and made me think his car was heavily modded. Whatever it was, it looked great.
Want to have a unique scare? Have the wheel liner drop while going 70+++++ on the interstate. The noise was awful. I luckily had some zip ties.
I thought the most memorable part of my driving today would be seeing something like this (top picture), but less purple and more of a pale pink. Hideous. Paris Hilton or Elle Woods in one, okay. Otherwise it's an insult to the idea of a performance car.
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I even looked over at the vehicle next to me at the intersection (same one where the female panhandler commented on my car), like, Did you see that? Then a woman in basically full hijab crossed the street to make it weirder.
But that was early and I had more places to go. I've been thinking about replacing my car, but without scrapping the current Bird and I almost had to do that immediately, because I nearly totaled it. Some bad driver made a late, probably red-light turn after I got the green and was accelerating fast because hurrying to a store before closure . I stopped just in time and so did that idiot when he or she should have sped up to cross before impact. I made silent, angry gestures and then continued on. My previous closest call with this car was similar and the previous car.... My next stops had the key items I was hoping to find, so ultimately I won tonight.
K member, upper and lower a arms installed today. And just because my car is a vindictive bitch decides it wants a new starter as well. Need to get it aligned. I'll wait till I get a new R&P.
I had to get it home, driving home was sketchy. It was twitchy, fellt like bump steer.
Things to address now:
Need new Rack & Pinon. It's leaking bad, like in 25 miles it empty the reservoir.
Found a coolant leak. The hoses from the pump to the heater core are leaking at the hydraulic press.
Almost burnt the car to the ground. Starter wire to the battery melted on the headers. So now I'll have to fix that at some point....
fun times...
Replaced my RF headlight pop up motor. Now looking at 2 new XtraVision high beams, I already have LED low beams and LED fog lights. Those are now have a weird projection pattern compared to incandescent OE.
Technically late last night, did an involuntary road showcase for guys looking for a deal on a Bird. At a light, I was asked if it's for sale. Interest persisted after I mentioned a red flag. I don't want to sell it right now, though, especially to sketchy strangers. Also, besides the Ram-air hood (which mine has), aren't there subtle front-end and rear differences between Trans Ams and regular Firebirds? I'm annoyed at being asked to confirm it's a V8. Next time, if it's at a light or stop sign and there's little traffic, I might just accelerate fast to make the point.
Oh I know it! Had my share of that:zoom:Quote:
Originally Posted by clovenhooves
If they don't know a Trans Am has a V8, they have no need to own one. I don't understand how random people will yell at me asking if I want to "sell that car?" I mean, sure, we are driving opposite directions and they scream it out. Wow really? You will probably give me $1000 for it right? I can't wait to sell it to you. So you can put some donks on it lol. It is starting to happen to my WS6, and happens A LOT more when I'm driving my 69 Le Mans 6.6 RAIV cammed convertible.Quote:
Originally Posted by clovenhooves
I got pics of suspension install but Flicker is being a little bitch today not letting me upload the.
:haha: right!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SMWS6TA
Here it is...
The old....please ignore the oil mess. The car is driven and not a garage queen.
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And the new :vodka:
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Ignore the leaky rack, I know and kinda pissed. Another item to add to the list of shit to fix....
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Made some tie down brackets for the trailer. Tired of going over the rear axle to strap it down. Interesting fact. On convertibles there is a hole in the frame that lets you use a j hook to tie it down, however on coupes the same hole is not the same size and you can't use a j hook.
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Some pics of the other stuff already installed over the years.
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Immediate Future upgrades/fixes:
New Rack and Pinon, fix the hot wire that comes from the battery to the starter.
Finally install the Wavetrac diff.
Viking Coil Overs - I noticed the front shocks are starting to leak a little (they're 10 yrs old so it's time)
Install longer wheel studs for the front. They're barely long enough to pass tech with my drag pack setup, so I need them 1/2-3/4" longer so techs can just look and say good without needing to get down and seriously look at them for thread engagement.
LT Headers - They're 13 yrs old, all the ceramic coating is chipping off, a great eye sore. I'm going to do SS LT's from TS&P this time.
Further out dreams.....New heads and cam to get the full potential from this 403.....:sulk:
^^^all I see are more undercarriage stickers. Lol, jk. Looks great. I bet you notice a big handling difference! I'm debating a new engine and 9". Still running 13.20s @ 108, 164k long tubes/lid. IDK tho, we are really waffling on a $10 investment in the WS6 or trading my wifes 2021 M6 RT Challenger Shaker in on a similar Scat Pack.
I will when the r&pis fixed. If I drive it now I lose fluid fast. So I haven't driven it more than 3 miles from the shop to the house.
R&P is fixed (mostly) got a new ps pressure line and it leaks too. Fixing to replace this weekend. But even more exciting news.
The Wavetrac is in!!!!:woot: Going thru break in but hopefully I can have some :drivin::drivin::drivin:
Finished up the interior but still looking for the driver power seat switch. I have the 02 WS6 and took apart the switch to clean and fix it but it did not last. In my quest for finding a replacement I cannot believe how difficult it is! All of the ones I see (ebay etc.) are not correct; I'm looking for the switch that has the 'slide' for moving the seat back and forth and up and down. Anyone have an idea of where to get it or have one?
I can't upload images.
thanks
Joe
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Originally Posted by joesurfer
Check with Hawks3rdgen.com
Thanks, I check with them occasionally but so far no go and not today. It used be good when you could go through a salvage yard to pick, but places by me don't allow that anymore. Sad.
^^^ yeah that is sad indeed. Several places around me allow me in the yard. 4th gens are a rare sight. I need the little bezel that goes around my fog lamp switch and the knob for my drivers power seat. Hawks tried to sell me a complete dash bezel for $50, but all I need is the small bezel thingy. Maybe I should buy it anyway. They didn't have my power seat knob.
Sometimes you have to bite the bullet on pricing if that's all there is. I'm willing to do that if I can find the switch!!
Went to the drag strip last night. Very pleased that my 162k WS6 still throws it down like she did 15 years ago. 5 runs, 3 over 109 MPH, with a best of 13.07 at 109.55. No sticky tires for the OE differential, but very happy!
Nice, any mods besides the Hooker LT's ?
And like always true to form. Make 2 steps of progress, then 1 step back. Went to have my alignment checked today after replacing the r&p and because of a little incident last weekend that put me almost in a ditch.
Found one of my rear LCA relocating brackets has a crack. So no more fun time till it's fixed. :sulk:
Hookers, a lid and a mail order tune from Frost.Quote:
Originally Posted by joesurfer
I forgot how to add pictures. I don't have any on my PC, they are on my phone. When I looked on the phone to post a reply, I didn't see how to.
Got to see video footage of the 6.0L running, and its getting dyno tuned on Thursday.
Downside is that my DD got rear ended in April and is a total loss. Hoping to get the cash for the TL repayment this week.
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Originally Posted by Whamhammer
Got it back yet?
Not yet, he was road tuning it, and found that the stock injectors were not keeping up, so we had to get new ones. The T/A was supposed to go on the dyno for dyno-tuning last week but got cancelled on. Should be on Tuesday. Crossing my fingers!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SMWS6TA
Hoping to have between 425 - 450 RWHP and gobs of torque,
Today was the day! After several dyno pulls, and an attempted suicide by the Dyno's RPM pickup unit, it maxed out at 415.61 rwhp @ ~6300 rpm and 386 lb/ft of torque @ ~5100 rpm, but the best run was when the RPM picked gave the ghost, so and the 386 was from a run with 408 rwhp, so it is likely more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Whamhammer
Its down from what I was hoping, but a likely pickup of 120 rwhp over stock, and 60 rwhp over the LS1 , tuned, with the same bolt-ons, vs this engine, and the car has a few weight reducing items in it, its not like this is a dramatically heavy car. (should be under 3,500 pounds now). So I am looking about 8.5 pounds per rwhp .Its also still running full emissions and not a high strung setup either.
Should be a good driver, all around.
Most importantly, it is a fresh engine, and should have no leaks!
Too Fast got an oil change and a tire rotation/balance today. Only put 2200 miles on her in 14 months....
went to Hotrod Powertour in Pensacola last Thur. It's been hotter than hell last 8 days here.
I will be getting my WS6 back on the 20th, can't wait to get it back, and take a spin and see what the 6.0L can do!
Got my WS6 back today. Jason has me do a 6,400 rpm pull on it to show how it hauls, and it is a definite noticeable difference. Its certainly not stealthy anymore, has a bit of vibration at idle; I am hoping some of that smoothes out with new exhaust hangars, they are squeaking like crazy, and probably vibrating a lot.
Not sure if there is a really good balancer out there that can take some more of the vibration out too? might be something worth looking into.
Are you using the old engine mounts, new, poly or solid? Poly and definitely solid will increase vibrations feel. If the mounts are old oem rubber ones you'll feel vibration also.
Another thing ppl overlook is the Transmission mount too. If you run poly on the engine you need to as well for tranny.
After a rebuild its common to have to go back under and recheck bolt tightness and adjust exhaust.
Enjoy it, just remember break in miles and check with builder about oil changes. Look at oil on those changes for bearing material.
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Originally Posted by SMWS6TA
The mounts (engine & transmission) are all new, OEM style.
I know the exhaust mounts are squeaking a lot, I could hear them, idling next to a Jersey wall.
I plan on going to a local performance shop for the first oil change, and have them check the oil for metals and whatnot.
I was told to go with 10W30, probably about another 700 or so miles before that oil change.
Funny thing is now, I have two cars with fresh engines, that will eventually need their first oil change.
Hopefully the transmission doesn't get jealous of the new engine and decide it wants a rebuild too.
Have fun. I haven't been able to enjoy mine this year at all. I think I've only put on less than 1200 miles this yr, and last yr maybe the same. The previous 3 yrs combine a total of 1500. I had a rough period between breaking my hand that required being in a cast twice and then knee surgery, then having the slave and tranny issues that led to more down time.
I last seriously drove it July 2nd. It's been non stop raining every damn day since beginning of June. And on that last trip I almost lost control. Was on interstate when a pop up shower dropped, normally I wouldn't care. But the road got so wet I felt the rear end starting to hydroplaning, as I slowed down a semi blows by me and his wake severely disrupt my car and it started to fishtail. I had to fight to regain control to prevent spin out at 70-80mph. The ass pucker factor hit about a 7/10, seat cushion was definitely starting to be sucked in. I checked my tire tread later on and it's still acceptable but may still get some new ones anyways.
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Originally Posted by SMWS6TA
I hear you, the transmission got rebuilt 150k ago, and the clutch assembly is all new, so the transmission has had some love (was the second rebuild, the first one, someone accidently got RTV on moving parts).
The car was out since New Year's, so we are glad to have it back. I think this winter is interior work, maybe any wheel well rust repair, plop on the new dash top that I have had for almost two years.
I am going to look for a second rear C5 ZO6 rear wheel, so when I buy new tires, I can run wider 18"s on the back, the current tires are about 4 years old.
Got my second C5 ZO6 18" wheel. I figure that my next set of tires will be 285/40/17 in the front and 295/35/18 in the rear.
So, I just picked this up a few weeks back:
1997 TA WS6, Hardtop, 6spd, Black with cloth interior. Running the RPO codes with just that info, it breaks down to 1 of 86.
I might have jumped on this car with a little bit of a "White Knight" complex. I saw the potential that this car can be brought back to. So, I moved on it to get it away from the previous owner before the car ended up to far gone. It has some mechanical issues (CEL w/ P0400 EGR code, butchered exhaust before cat-back, clutch, window motors) but cosmetically, it's an all around solid car.
Goodies include: LT1 Prokit, Borla cat-back, Strut bar, Car Cover, new tires.
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Just wanted to come in and say hi. I wrapped my car recently. Running good. Yesterday marks 12 years of owning her.
Looking neat and nice! My friend recently got a new WS6 and he's planning to wrap it after installing the new brake pads and tires from 4Wheelonline this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrbonds
Just learned that cammed six liters dont like 220k mile old IAC motors
I can actually drive in reverse now ROFL
Bump.
My TA has been through a lot lately, except for driving. I did a little of that today, partly to oversee correction of a minor car problem. Toward the end of my trip, at an intersection, the other two LS1 types were there in the same 30 seconds. A silver Corvette and a Camaro, I think black. As the years go by, that will almost never happen.
Car is finally a fulltime resident in the garage, totally cleaned and ceramic waxed the exterior glass. Getting ready to take the carpet out, and clean out the floor sheetmetal, and sound-deaden the floor, and put in new carpet over the winter.
I took mine out in nasty weather today. It's been getting beat up in various ways, but still runs well and car people think I should I keep it. Roads were less busy than usual, but I had the pleasure of a yellow TA (2002?) drive past me in the other direction. Those aren't going to the scrapyard. I motioned to the driver, but I don't think that person noticed or reciprocated.
No reason to not keep it and rejuvenate and enjoy it.Quote:
Originally Posted by clovenhooves
I am hoping that enough people hold onto and try to refresh their 4th Gens that manufacturers start making more and a broader selection of replacement parts.
Go the WS6 back, two weekends ago. New rocker arm, and first oil change under the belt, and only an acceptable amount of break-in metal found.
Definitely have a throttle dead spot, we think it's the TPS, I got a factory unit and will be installing it, and a new IAT , this weekend. Going to see if it can quickly relearn the TPS, and fix everything.
Took Gracie out for a ride on Labor Day, had a great time. Spent most of the time with the windows down but it started getting hot, so I rolled up the windows and turned on the AC; never got cold.
Hooked up the pressure gage, thinking it would be low, didn't hear the clutch cycling, and the pressure is in the red/high area. Figured the compressor has keeled over, I guess 221,000 is above and beyond the call of duty :)
Fun, fun, fun!!
Hopefully I get my 98 out this Friday to go to Cruising the Coast. :woot:
Nice!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by SMWS6TA
I hope to have enough of my car refreshed to where I can cruise with mine, next summer.
I have been driving Gracie, from time to time, usually on Daddy-Daughter trips. The 6.0L build is definitely fun to drive!
Gas mileage is a bit "meh" still but may have improved with a local performance shop realigning the exhaust (was starting to slip loose and was shaking all around) and found one of the intake hose clamps was loose. It feels better but I think it still needs some low RPM, stop-and-go throttle area tuning. Smells horrible until after driving 10-20 miles, throttle response is definitely better after driving a bit; I may get a new 80mm throttle body , as the original one is over 220k miles old, and a little bit more intake air probably wont hurt!
Saving up for a 12 bolt, and either 3.73:1 or 4.11:1 gears, which I could find 3.90:1's, though.
Would like to replace carpet and seat leather this winter, waiting to see if a settlement that I am waiting on will be where I think it is.
Go ahead and get a 90mm TB and intake. More air = more performance, let that 6.0 breath. :firedevil:
3.73 gr is a pretty solid gr. I had 4.11 in my 8.8 but when I put the Wavetrac Diff in I dropped down to 3.93 GR. I got some of my mpg back but still have enough gr to get it moving like with 4.11's 3.73's give you more torque off the line but doesn't sacrifice mpg and top end speed that higher gr do.
IMHO carpet made more of a visual change for the interior then getting new seats. If you do carpet, get some sound deadner like FatMat or Dynomat. It does make a difference.
Smells? = clogged cats?
Updates on my rides: 98 TA - Still fine tuning the coil overs but a shit ton of difference over shock and springs.
00 Vert - daughter is having a phantom issue with the 6cyl. It randomly refuses to start. So far haven't been able to figure what the gremlin is. I f'ing loath electrical issues.
78 TA? - tore the front end completely down, removed the sub-frame, wired wheel the rust off and Por15 it completely, remove the old bushings on the a arms and currently waiting media blast to be able to paint them as well. I ordered Energy Suspension Master Bushing Poly Kit as well as new ball joints etc. I have pics, not sure if to start a build thread or not.
I'm getting rotator surgery next week so that's going to be putting a pause for next few months.
No, I don't think its a cat issue, the smell is heavy exhaust, possibly too rich, but not enough that smells like raw fuel? It does get better (but not normal) once the car has been driven for a while (10-20 miles).Quote:
Originally Posted by SMWS6TA
For the gearing, Jason, the guy who built and installed the engine is recommending the 4.11's, over 3.73's, because of the 224R cam, but I do know he prefers tires taller than 26", which is around where I plan to keep my tire height. The power band is definitely at a higher curve than before, and sixth is feeling a bit more tall now.
I need new seat covers because they are old and dried up, the driver side upper has been cracked too.
I'm not quite there on buying a new intake manifold, as most are $800 and up, before buying the throttle body and possibly rails, a new MAF, and intake hoses; I also don't want a manifold that screams "look at me, Im not factory!" It just seems like a large investment for low results; I may be wrong though.
I am curious about the V6 'bird not starting and interested to hear the solution.
I hope your surgery goes well, I was supposed to have foot surgery in mid-December, but my surgeon has pulled a "Where's Waldo" for a few months, so I am seeing different surgeon that either can operate sooner or at least give me a second opinion.
Just drove Gracie yesterday, with 125 miles of light load driving, mostly cruising at highways speed, I used 7.222 gallons of gas; so that 17.3 MPG. Thats the best that I have achieved so far; I was figuring that I would have closer to 20 MPG or so. I am starting to think I may want to replace to O2 sensors.
I am still thinking the tune is a bit too rich for lower RPM & idle. Still having a surge if I am coasting in neutral with my foot not in the clutch and it drops with the foot into the clutch.
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It's not a bad idea to put in new O2's after a new tune or if it was running untuned for a while. Hell how old are the O2's? They may be do anyways.
I had my rear O2's deleted in tune since there's no need for them with my exhaust setup.
Also did you have them tuned with the ac running as well? If not when you run it at idle it will stall out. I have to play with my gas pedal to keep it running at a light if ac is on.
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These O2's were on the car when the new engine was tuned, not sure if he did any tuning with the AC on or off but the issue is most certainly there when the AC is off, didn't really drive it too much with the AC was on, as until last month, the AC compressor was dead and the lines had holes in them. The AC was working when I took the car back from the engine though.
It smells horrible when its cold, a bit better when its warm, but I would think it would not be so heavy smelling.
I guess is its time for four new O2s then!!!
I am also wondering if the throttle body is showing its age, I have cleaned it all out, but after 221k miles, I am sure the blade bushings have seen better days. I have been thinking of getting an 80mm throttle body, just to have a little more air opening and for all new moving parts, I dont think there is a rebuild kit out there.
order pretty much all new steering components for the 78 as well as new front brake kit. Just need to get the control arms, knuckles and few other pieces cleaned up so I can paint them. once that's done then I can put the suspension back on the subframe and get it back on the car.
I received the AAC carpet for Gracie, and am going to take the interior out, clean the floor pan, lay down some Fat Mat, and lay in new carpet.
I am hoping to really make some progress on working with the car, this winter and spring.
lay out the carpet in a warm room. the warmer the carpet is the easier it is to handle it. when you go to cut the shifter hole out do minimal cuts. open as little as possible till you fit it all around. Same as with seatbelt and seat holes. you should have about 4-6" of excess around perimeter. You also need to take out center consul and mayber shifter.
Finally got the carpet out, I found:
1) deadbeat mouse that never paid rent (was dead)
2) 3.5 crayons and a kids menu from Outback
3) Six pennies
And two rust holes in the floor pan, in both back seat foot wells.
Going to call a local shop and see how much to out some patch panels in.
That's good and bad news. The 78 has some serious body work I have to do. Floors, Drv's side Qtr panel, and the rear deck lid needs replaced. I just ordered new fenders. Currently I have the sub frame off and stripped down, wired wheel it and cleaned. Put on a couple of coats of Por15. The front suspension is completely torn down. I need to find a place hat can finish media blasting it so I can paint it too before I install new bushings. I also have all new steering linkage as well as a new reman gear box upgraded to quick turn. I'm fixing to order a new radiator core support. Next will be the floor pans and hood. I got a lot of body work but to be honest don't care. It's all stuff you have to deal with on a 2nd gen anyways. I already have on hand the drv qtr panel and the rear deck lid. Just waiting on my buddy (he's a welder) to make room so we can start working on the qtr panel.Quote:
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Sounds like you have a project ahead of you, are reproduction body parts widely available for those years?Quote:
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I have had a heck of a time finding sheet metal parts for Gracie.
I just finished using a Dremel, and cutting out as much of the rot on the driver's side floor pan that I can, it looks like water had gotten in, at one point, and stayed in the rear seat footwell, near the drain hole, and ate from the inside, out. The hole is a little bit bigger than the palm of my hand on the driver side, and the passenger side has only ate through a small enough portion to push a pen through and run it about three inches length, so maybe I am getting off lucky? I know my drivers wheelhouse is needing replacing too :ahh:
where do you live? I live deep in Satan's ballsack know as lower Alabama on the Gulf Coast. it is humid all the time and rains a shit ton but we don't have that much rust issues.
Surprisingly there are a lot vendors with 2nd Gen body panels. But they all get them from same 2-3 repop makers. I've been ordering my stuff thru Jegs and Classic Industries. only thing that sucks hard is the truck shipping fees. $150/ part non-waiveable. Now because I order both fenders at same time I got charged for only 1. I think they boxed them together. when it comes in I'll find out.
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I live in Maryland, rust can be a thing up here. Up until a few years ago, the car was an outside stored, daily driver; it also sat a bit during the engine swap because of unexpected delays in parts.
check your rear hatch seal. water may be intruding from there besides the window seal gaps.
I've checked it before, and it seemed to be OK.Quote:
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I have finally gotten a hold of a shop that was recommended to work on the rusted panels, and he sounds like he has worked on far worse headaches than mine. When he does the work, I am going to have him see if he can see a path of saturation.
I know the quarter panel had been replaced at some point in the past, perhaps it was not properly sealed somewhere that I cannot see it.
I will say that this has been a good opportunity to work on reconditioning the interior parts, however. I have soaked all of the nuts and bolts in a Solo Cup of Evapo-Rust and put some soaked paper towels on some rusted metal on the seats, and the Evapo-Rust has done a bang-up job of removing rust and oxidation.
I have also ordered a new interior screw set, a new repro console lid, a new lower shifter boot (original is torn). I am getting a special iron that melts small metal braces into plastic to reinforce broken plastic, and I am fixing the center console, under the cupholder, some brackets for the sail panel trim, and the trim panel that holds the power seat buttons on the drivers seat.
Perhaps, if I am lucky, I will have a 220k+mile old WS6 , that looks like its less than 80k miles old.
rear seats are either t tops, rear hatch, or window seals. 1 other possibility is the weight of the window has wallow out the mounting of the window motor that supports the actuator causing it to sag down. Have no idea why gm thought it was a good idea to have thin fiberglass support heavy windows
Good news is that I have a bunch of replacement weatherstrips for the car, including the rear hatch seal. I figure once the real body work begins, the guy will be able to trace back to the root cause, and go from there.Quote:
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I finally got in touch with a shop that will actually work with rust repair (all the shops are slammed with insurance collision work, and not enough labor available for them to be interested in “less-than-gravy” income) , sent a few pictures of the rust areas and he said he would be able to work with it, but not until late February.
I wanted to get him to take a real look at it, to ballpark the cost, but the day that we set had a full day of snow, so that fell through. My foot surgery is this Tuesday, so it will be about a month before I will be able to drive so I will have to wait.
I did order some Bosch 13111 and 13444’s for when I can wrench on it in the Spring.
I am going to put some Fat Mat on both sides of the now ex-rust holes to seal them up for a bit, and will drive the car one more time before the surgery, to get all of the fluids moving, rust off of the rotors, and keep it in good running order before its month-or-so long rest.
I'm still on the mend from my rotator cuff surgery. just got out of the sling. pt is a must but it's going slow for me this time. still hurts and feels like my bicep has a vice clamp pulling down. but it is starting to be less painful and I'm able to move around more. just have to go at slow.
78 update. the front suspension pieces have finally been blasted, just have to clean them up and then apply por15 on them, then I can start reassemble them. I bought a 20ton press from Harbor Frieght that was fun putting together with one arm.
I've been also amassing parts. Got a new radiator core support and both fenders for Christmas. I've got a complete bushing kit and body mounts, replacement steering linkage as well as an upgraded quick turn steering gear box. the subframe has been cleaned up and had por15 applied.
Wx has finally come out of Artic temps to the 79's this week. Started painting the suspension parts.
Flushed the brake fluid and clutch fluid. Looked somewhat nasty!
Gimped my way to the car i the garage last week, opened the door, and no lights or anything. Looks like the battery flipped me the bird.
Bought a trickle charger and will try to charge it back up.
I probably wont be able to start driving again until mid-March?.. yay!!!
Been slowly working on the 78. Got the sub-frame in and and today finally got the springs (<<<:cuss: ), front shocks and steering linkage in.