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Originally Posted by Cloud9
depending on the size of the turbo and the motor/head involved a turbo very well can lose boost at higher rpm's.
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Originally Posted by Cloud9
depending on the size of the turbo and the motor/head involved a turbo very well can lose boost at higher rpm's.
Stock, not to common.
lol surpas are tha shiz yo!! fast en da furiouz told me so!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by LS1scgoat
would i rather have a 900rwhp vacuum cleaner sounding supra with a 200 rpm powerband, or a good ole fashioned American v8 with some turbos with power anywhere. hmmmm you decide
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...af011c130d.htm
lol i love that video, just show this to any supra fan boy to shut him up. That is what american muscle is all about! It isnt a LS1 but it is a beauty of a good ole chevy V8.
Supras are nice cars, but they are nothing special nor are they untouchable like these guys make them out to be. Just because they're the fastest rice available people praise them. Yes they are built for boost from the factory. But any motor can be built for boost and its not really going to cost you THAT much more in the grand scheme of how much money you will be spending. No matter what, no supra will put down 800 RWHP with a $7200 turbo kit. It will go so much deeper then that it aint funny. Keep dreaming buddy....
Ok....a Nelson Racing engine, and a car that goes 7s.....with a 522 twin turbo, and go knows what else. If that's the case...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxk2IaoMTb0
There's a 2 liter car that is street legal that goes 7.80s.
You know what the moral of the story is? Anything can be made fast for the right amount of money, so don't come in here with your Nelson video thinking you know something.
Of course you can make anything fast with enough money.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4tun8
The real moral of the story is not to waste your time with 4 bangers, there's no replacement for displacement. Start out with a V8, and if you need more power go F/I from there. 4 cylinders are pointless, you can always make more power with a larger motor and have it sound better and be more reliable in the process. Plus its will always have a better powerband and have much more potential.
Case closed.
Most the time V8's come in huge bulky cars with a not so good suspension design, but it great for lots of torque, and straight lines. Lets not forget how many automatic trannys, vs manuals there are, my guess is over 2/3rd's are auto. ALOT of the V8s are a heavy block aswell so thats more weight in the front end. One of the only engines that dosent is the LSx its light, one of the reasons i like it. I dont car whats faster in a line, but what is quicker around a track, MOST (not all obviously) cars that come with V8's stock and have equal or even more mods than me i could take on a road course how often am i out of my powerband then. Vettes are wonderfull cars, The C6 Z06 is my favorite car.
ps i dont like MK4 supras either, there nice cars but not my thing.
Thinking i know something? lol ok...I know a 55 psi turbo 4 banger needs NITROUS to spool a gigantic turbo and needs to run on methanol, surely sounds streetable to me! Id love to see how useable that power is. If he doesnt leave the line on full boost it would probably take until the 1/8th mile to spool that turbo. So whats your point again? the supra is the same thing, only this car would be 10 times worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by 4tun8
Yes that car is obviously fast without question, ON A TRACK and being able to launch on full boost. But the key here is useable power. How long will it take to spool that turbo on the st? Probably long enough for a civic to pull ahead until it spooled. ahaha. Just please watch the video i posted again. No need for nitrous and boost is instant. That is what performance is about. This is what a V8 is all about. Instant gratification :)
Show me a video of this streetable 4 banger putting it in 3rd gear at 20mph and being able to spool the turbo and smoke the tires in under a second. You wont find it because it wont happen on a 4 cyl. Til then dont come in here thinking a built 4 banger :typer: has ANYTHING on a built V8 or that YOU know more then anyone... other then your fellow ricers.
And the point i was trying to make before you interupted. V8 > 6cyl > 4cyl and theres no replacement for displacement, especially with boost. Thank you come again
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