Is the Buick GN one of the best Muscle Cars Ever?

To the other, The Buick GN has been listed as one of Buicks few Muscle cars for more than 20 years now..

Reguardless of what someone "considers" it to be out of personal opinion..

Superchargers and turbo's have been around for more than 80 years, so, the argument that this or that is not something or does'nt count because it's not N/A has long been without merit..

Just as the V6 argument is..

Last I checked FI dominated drag racing... Nuff said...

Even the earliest Corvette was powered by none other than a "blue flame" I6..

Definition of a "Muscle car" as per webster: "any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving"

Muscle car - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Just as people have their opinions, so too, do people sometimes disagree with those opinions..

The point is there's no sense in acting like an ass-hat because people strongly disagree with your opinions or comments..

^^ :yup:

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Originally Posted by pajeff02

Have to bring her home first. Might not be until Spring at this point.





:yup: Chrylser's new Pentastar V6 -- N/A with DOHC and VVT. Can't wait to get her broke in so I can go out and wind her up. Over 4,000 rpm they are supposed to really sing.

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I think you'll like the DOHC setup in a v6 especially cranked up.. :yup:

I think I read somewhere that Chrysler is going with the 3.6L?, DOHC as their only v6 to be offered in various platforms in the future..iirc

3.6 it is. Apparently, this is something that the Dodge boys have been working on for quite a while.

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Originally Posted by Smittro

Definition of a "Muscle car" as per webster: "any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving"

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I'm sorry, but Corvettes are sports cars, and Cobalt SSs, for example, are NOT muscle cars, and that's not opinion.

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Originally Posted by justinmc978

I'm sorry, but Corvettes are sports cars, and Cobalt SSs, for example, are NOT muscle cars, and that's not opinion.

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I'd go along with that Justin. :yup:

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Originally Posted by justinmc978

I'm sorry, but Corvettes are sports cars, and Cobalt SSs, for example, are NOT muscle cars, and that's not opinion.

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Good point and I also agree since I hate 4-cylinders..

But as for the Buick GN, it has been listed as a muscle car for more than 20 years as I stated b4..

I don't think I have ever seen a Cobalt listed as such..

Also, it's listed as a compact, whereas Muscle cars are usually larger cars, or what was considered "mid-sized"...

We've rented Cobalts b4, and I have to say, IMHO, they are cheap junk, just as the loaner Aveo we had a couple of weeks ago was..

My wifes old 96 Z24 with the quad-4 5spd was a far nicer car inside then both the Aveo, and Cobalt..

But I still give respect if and where it's due..

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Originally Posted by Z28Thunder

I am confused Smittro with the last statement. The OP asked " Is the Buick GN one of the best Muscle Cars Ever? ". That means the OP is asking for an opinion. You may or may not agree with them but oh well. Do I think the GN is the best Muscle Car nope. Is it a very very fast V6 yes sir. IMO the term muscle car is for cars from 1964 to 1975. That means I really don't think the LS1 f-body is a muscle car. Can the LS1 be a fast car yup. We had several fast V6's a few years back at the track. Many were modded GTP's several were running 12's. And we had a modded V6 f-body in the 13's. It was fun to watch stock or close to stock V8 cars get beat by the GTP's.

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Thanks, Z28Thunder, you said just what i meant. I was not trying to put the GN down. Hey i'd love to own one and probably would be seen drooling over the one mentioned in the thread but "best ever" is a very tall subject.

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Originally Posted by pajeff02

Have to bring her home first. Might not be until Spring at this point.

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Well, it is supposed to be decent this week and possibly for a few more so if you want to buzz down someday and bring her home we can. :)

The universally accepted meaning of muscle car is a era , not open to debate, ran from 1967-1972 and some then argue 1965 because the GTO and the launch of the Mustang pony car had heated up the battle that started it all.
The launch of the emissions era downfall to h.p. began to take its toll in 1972.

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Originally Posted by 2ManySS's

The universally accepted meaning of muscle car is a era , not open to debate, ran from 1967-1972 and some then argue 1965 because the GTO and the launch of the Mustang pony car had heated up the battle that started it all.
The launch of the emissions era downfall to h.p. began to take its toll in 1972.

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Definetly open for debate..

It's also universally accepted that since the "early era" of muscle cars began, that many cars have since born the label, "Muscle Car"..

More likely the lack of technology served to dampen NOT end the era, as the fuel crisis heated up, octane levels droppped, and leaded gasoline was removed from use..

Someone stating that the supposed "era" has ended is meaningless as manufacturers have never conceeded this to be true.

Reguardless of what TV, or a bunch of beer drinkers stuck in the stories of the good old days may have some believe..

The Muscle Car still lives as the tech has been long inplace to overcome the imposed fuel limitations and emissions limits..

Sure it can be debated that the "era" started in 65/67 but ended??

Hardly..........

the greatest muscle car of all time has changed since this thread was started :lol:

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Originally Posted by 0rion

the greatest muscle car of all time has changed since this thread was started :lol:

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Neon SRT, aka Skittle Xtreme?

Subaru STi?

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Originally Posted by 0rion

the greatest muscle car of all time has changed since this thread was started :lol:

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Nothing has changed

Everything has changed

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Originally Posted by GTP231

Everything has changed

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Nothing was the same

Then you agree everything has changed

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