Dart Heads!!!

just ordered dart heads 205s 66cc,comp cam 222/224 566/568 lift 112 lsa,pro mag stainless roller rockers,fast 90/90 combo all for 3600 but still need gasket kit timing chain,ls7 lifters before installing and new head bolts,tax money goes quick.any one have good results with these heads/and or cam?

I have the exact same cam but stock ported heads. It is a good daily driver cam and great sound. That stall will kill ur MPG tho. My cam took like maybe 1 or 2 mpg off but the stall took like 3-4. with those heads and that cam, that is at least 75 HP over stock.

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Originally Posted by TransAmcoupe98

I have the exact same cam but stock ported heads. It is a good daily driver cam and great sound. That stall will kill ur MPG tho. My cam took like maybe 1 or 2 mpg off but the stall took like 3-4. with those heads and that cam, that is at least 75 HP over stock.

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i have an m6 i think im gonna sale this cam and go with a gx53 from lg i got a good deal on a used one i want alittle more power since its not a daily driver,let me know if you know anyone who wants this brand new cam,thanks

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Originally Posted by blackls1ta

just ordered dart heads 205s 66cc,comp cam 222/224 566/568 lift 112 lsa,pro mag stainless roller rockers,fast 90/90 combo all for 3600 but still need gasket kit timing chain,ls7 lifters before installing and new head bolts,tax money goes quick.any one have good results with these heads/and or cam?

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I have the exact same cam w/2800 stall, off road stainless works header, stock heads w/upgraded beehive springs, oem lifters. I lost roughly 4 mpg in the city driving.

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Originally Posted by blackls1ta

just ordered dart heads 205s 66cc,comp cam 222/224 566/568 lift 112 lsa,pro mag stainless roller rockers,fast 90/90 combo all for 3600 but still need gasket kit timing chain,ls7 lifters before installing and new head bolts,tax money goes quick.any one have good results with these heads/and or cam?

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Did you not do ANY research on those heads at all? They barely flow better than stock set of 243s.

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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28

Did you not do ANY research on those heads at all? They barely flow better than stock set of 243s.

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no At the time I didn't know anything about engines & performance modification. I just wanted to maintain driveability at the same time. Now I know lot more from when I first started.I do like my set up except I want to put better a/m heads. My goal is to reach 400 rwhp. Currently 363.00 rwhp.

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Originally Posted by jinouk67

no At the time I didn't know anything about engines & performance modification. I just wanted to maintain driveability at the same time. Now I know lot more from when I first started.I do like my set up except I want to put better a/m heads. My goal is to reach 400 rwhp. Currently 363.00 rwhp.

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That head, cam and intake combo should have no problem hitting 400 at the wheels through a 6 speed.

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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28

Did you not do ANY research on those heads at all? They barely flow better than stock set of 243s.

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and do you know how long dart has been building engines? so i think they will work great,if you have used them ,please do tell your experience, not what you heard.

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Originally Posted by blackls1ta

and do you know how long dart has been building engines? so i think they will work great,if you have used them ,please do tell your experience, not what you heard.

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Whatever. Be happy with your $1600 aftermarket heads that barely hit 270cfm and burn as much oil as gas. They're designed to be ported. Out of the box they suck, plain and simple. Just don't be surprised when you find yourself 30+HP short of other similar combos running ported stock heads, or when your trap speeds resemble that of a bolton car. I've seen what they flow on a bench compared to numerous other LS1 heads. However, I don't run them. Take that as you wish ;)

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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28

Whatever. Be happy with your $1600 aftermarket heads that barely hit 270cfm and burn as much oil as gas. They're designed to be ported. Out of the box they suck, plain and simple. Just don't be surprised when you find yourself 30+HP short of other similar combos running ported stock heads, or when your trap speeds resemble that of a bolton car. I've seen what they flow on a bench compared to numerous other LS1 heads. However, I don't run them. Take that as you wish ;)

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first of all if i wanted a whatever attitude ill ask my ex g/f.i also am putting 333rwhp and 344 torq with bolt ons and without longtubes,so if i can gain 75hp+from this combo ill take it, and if i need more hp down the road ill get them reworked to flow better,its no big deal so please keep your smart comments to yourself! take this as you wish.

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Originally Posted by blackls1ta

first of all if i wanted a whatever attitude ill ask my ex g/f.i also am putting 333rwhp and 344 torq with bolt ons and without longtubes,so if i can gain 75hp+from this combo ill take it, and if i need more hp down the road ill get them reworked to flow better,its no big deal so please keep your smart comments to yourself! take this as you wish.

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the dart heads will work fine they wil not burn oil and they make good power, I ran the out of the box 225 head last year on a shit track they ran 11.42 at 123mph. you could go with the 225 head with a M6 or auto with converter.

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Originally Posted by dracer173

the dart heads will work fine they wil not burn oil and they make good power, I ran the out of the box 225 head last year on a shit track they ran 11.42 at 123mph. you could go with the 225 head with a M6 or auto with converter.

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thanks for some good advice

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Originally Posted by dracer173

the dart heads will work fine they wil not burn oil and they make good power, I ran the out of the box 225 head last year on a shit track they ran 11.42 at 123mph. you could go with the 225 head with a M6 or auto with converter.

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those are the heads that i am going wtih. heard that dart is a good brand. you should hit your mark on power.

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Originally Posted by dracer173

the dart heads will work fine they wil not burn oil and they make good power.

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The 225s might work OK, but the 205s leave A LOT to be desired.

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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28

The 225s might work OK, but the 205s leave A LOT to be desired.

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I never used the 205 runner head so i can't say but the 225 head flow past 600 lift and don't stall they flow well to 700 lift.

i canceled the darts and went with afr 205s for 2,225 shipped

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Originally Posted by blackls1ta

i canceled the darts and went with afr 205s for 2,225 shipped

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I don't think you will see any performance gain from the afr 205 Vs the dart 225 head, the both make good power.

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Originally Posted by dracer173

I don't think you will see any performance gain from the afr 205 Vs the dart 225 head, the both make good power.

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I couldn't disagree more. Not only will those AFR 205s make more power than the Dart 225, but they will do it with better throttle repsonse and economy.

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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28

I couldn't disagree more. Not only will those AFR 205s make more power than the Dart 225, but they will do it with better throttle repsonse and economy.

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you can think what you will, but they don 't flow any better and haven 't made any more power and ported they are not as good

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Originally Posted by dracer173

I don't think you will see any performance gain from the afr 205 Vs the dart 225 head, the both make good power.

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im looking for low to midrange power so afrs shud work great.