Quick and easy HP tuner question

**Firebirdjones** · 02-21-2007, 01:32 PM

I am ready to order HP tuners and just want to make sure I get the right version. Looking at the one called "VCM Suite" and looks like it will do everything I need and more. Just need reassured this is the right one before I plunk down $500. Thanks, Larry.

***Ed Blown Vert*** · 02-21-2007, 01:33 PM

Yes if you want to tune.

**Firebirdjones** · 02-21-2007, 01:38 PM

Thanks for the quick reply Ed,,,I'll get right after it and let the fun begin.

***Ed Blown Vert*** · 02-21-2007, 01:40 PM

Are you looking at Pro or Standard?

**Firebirdjones** · 02-21-2007, 02:02 PM

Not sure what the differences are,,,,could you please explain?
I am only looking to tune, fuel and spark, transmission shift points, torque managment, delete the rear 02's etc...just the basics. Larry.

**Firebirdjones** · 02-21-2007, 02:03 PM

Also I should add this is for my own car and nothing else.

***Ed Blown Vert*** · 02-21-2007, 02:11 PM

The Pro version will allow you to hook up a wideband to tune AF on the street.

**ninobrn99** · 02-21-2007, 05:31 PM

get the pro version. a wideband is necessary to tune the car correctly. You'll save yourself grien in the long run.

**Firebirdjones** · 02-21-2007, 06:02 PM

Hmmmm, the pro version is $150 more. Just to be able to hook up a wide band or does this include some sort of wide band equipment?
I'm not real clear on that. Larry.

**ninobrn99** · 02-22-2007, 06:33 AM

it doenst include the wideband. you have to buy that on your own. like they say, you have to pay to play.

**Firebirdjones** · 02-22-2007, 10:39 AM

Oh,,,so for the buck and a half all you are getting is an extra port to plug your wide band in. Thats what I needed to know, thanks guys. Larry.

**ninobrn99** · 02-22-2007, 03:16 PM

yup. thats it.

***Ed Blown Vert*** · 02-22-2007, 03:23 PM

You do get the blackbox feature.

**ninobrn99** · 02-22-2007, 06:39 PM

very true. another added bonus.

**mrr23** · 02-22-2007, 06:45 PM

i have the pro version. if you were to buy the standard now and want to move up, it will cost $300.00 there is more to it other than just an external port. the external port will allow up to 4 inputs and 2 outputs plus ground connection.

as ed mentioned, the 'black box' feature. with both you can can datalog. with the standard, you have to have the laptop plugged in and running to scan and log. with the pro, it's integrated into the cable box. you push the start button and hold it for two seconds. once done you press and hold the stop button for two seconds. it can record up to 80 minutes of logging.

**mrr23** · 02-22-2007, 06:49 PM

http://www.hptuners.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2924

**Firebirdjones** · 02-23-2007, 02:39 AM

Thanks for the info guys,,,I appreciate the link mrr23.

Larry.

**mrr23** · 02-23-2007, 04:22 AM

no problem

**losls2** · 02-26-2007, 02:27 PM

With only a small amount of work, a custom PID can be created that will allow you to log AFR thru another sensor and then be able to scan it with the standard HPTuners. I log my WBO2 thru the EGR that I no longer use. I have my LM-1 setup to read 10-20:1 AFR and create an output signal between 0-4.9 V I believe. Then you just tell the HPTUners scanning software that x voltage = y AFR. Sounds complicated but it is really easy.