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    megs 02sunsetorangeZ's Avatar
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    which programmer??

    i am wanting to get a programmer and i have an 02 Z headers, magnaflow, TB by-pass, ported and polished TB, and a few more mods. What should be the best programmer for my car? Any suggestions would be much appreciated

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    anyone have any suggestions??? at all???
    Last edited by 02sunsetorangeZ; 07-23-2007 at 03:29 PM.

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    the vinci tuner. i used to use to use one on the wife's car when it had heads and cam.

    here's a write up i did on it.

    http://www.stealthram.com/vhptuner.htm

    and where to buy
    http://vincihighperformance.com/TUNE...FO%20PAGE.HTML
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    sunset orange
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    alright thanx man.... that helps a lot!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    the vinci tuner. i used to use to use one on the wife's car when it had heads and cam.

    here's a write up i did on it.

    http://www.stealthram.com/vhptuner.htm

    and where to buy
    http://vincihighperformance.com/TUNE...FO%20PAGE.HTML
    was it worth it mrr23? i have had bad luck with diablosport before, what kind of power increases did you see?

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    ^^ thats a good question i left out

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    when i did some track testing for vinci, i gained .20 et and 1.4 mph. these were back to back runs. used hi perf/stock cam +10% power enrichment.

    i've used it to tune the wife's car back when it had heads and cam. picked up 17 rwhp from tuning the heads and 20 rwhp from tuning the cam.

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    that aint bad

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    damn! does any other handheld yield that good of an increase? so could the above setup see about 15 rwhp or is that over shooting it?

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    i am not happy with my super chips handheld or thier service

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    yeah me and sunsetorange02 had bad luck with diablosport, their predator fried the ecm in our moms avalanche and now were having to fight them to give us our refund back

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    I have a predator Diablo. Love it, and customer service has been outstanding. They have a great website and forum. Also, you can download custom programs from them via the internet. Let them know what mods you have, and they will write a custom program for you and send it to you via the internet, You can then download it into your programmer (with their adapter kit) then you can go install it in your car.
    They are very easy to use, large screen, get rid of your cogs without an elimiator plug, you can adjust rear end ratios, tire sizes, when your fans come on and off, and give you real time data.
    I like it much better than my superchips I have for my Truck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02sunsetorangeZ View Post
    damn! does any other handheld yield that good of an increase? so could the above setup see about 15 rwhp or is that over shooting it?
    well, the theory goes .1 = 10hp

    here's the timeslip from my car



    here's a dyno sheet from when i was using the tuner to work on the wife's car. the a/f isn't correct. wideband took a crap.


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    here's the dyno sheet when i tuned it after installing heads


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    thanks for the help mrr23, i'm kinda leaning toward your vinci programmer. ilike the diablo features but i dont really trust them cuz of what happened with our mom's truck.

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    they both have their advantages. the predator gives more adjustability for transmission stuff and can have tunes sent to you over the internet.

    the vinci has 7 preset tunes to start off with. and you can modify those and your stock tune. it even has tunes for superchargers.

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    thanks again man

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    veddy nice.. thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    they both have their advantages. the predator gives more adjustability for transmission stuff and can have tunes sent to you over the internet.

    the vinci has 7 preset tunes to start off with. and you can modify those and your stock tune. it even has tunes for superchargers.
    I recently purchased a Crane/Vinci tuner
    from a member on this forum.

    I was wondering, approximently how much
    timing advance and air fuel ratio changes when using the perf/stock cam settings and also +10% power enrichment settings.

    Has anyone ever monitored these changes
    with a wideband or datalogger ?

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    i say dialbo preadtor

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