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    A couple of questions around tuners.

    1) Which one is the best?
    2) How much increase in hp at the rw's?
    3) Any problems encountered?
    4) Does a C5 thermostat fit the gto 04?
    I found a sight that selling a 180. That gets me out of the cold loop
    I have a 160 on the shelf I used during the summer which keeps the
    engine cooler in city traffic, but I took it out in Nov.

    The last thing I want to do is mess up the PCM anyway...

    Happy Holidays to one and all,

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    Diablo is probably the best since it can delete codes, it also includes all the same features as Hypertech. I would say they'd give ya roughly 10hp maybe more depending your MODs and whether your an M6 or A4. It basically makes your car act and feel more aggressive on the road. They're working on a programmer which mounts to your dash and displays the current vehicle status which you should probably wait for, check it out on their site man... Hope that helps alil, just my $0.02.

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    Thanks - m6, k & n high flow filter & cags skip so far.
    if i can get out from under 12 hr days 6 days aweek i'll be removing the spoiler and anything else adding weight through the car over the winter

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Silver Goat View Post
    1) Which one is the best?
    depends on what you are looking to do. predator has the ability to have custom tunes uploaded. the vinci uner i use has cutom tunes preloaded based on what cam you have and whether or not you have a supercharger. the HPP3 is limited to stock gearing and the tune that comes with it has a habit of causing detonation.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Silver Goat View Post
    2) How much increase in hp at the rw's?
    again, depends on what you have done and how far off the tune is. i've gotten 17 rwhp using the vinci tuner.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Silver Goat View Post
    3) Any problems encountered?
    none with the vinci. the predator has an error with setting gearing. HPP3 has only the one program based only on a stock motor. any modifications and they say hands off.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Silver Goat View Post
    4) Does a C5 thermostat fit the gto 04?
    I found a sight that selling a 180. That gets me out of the cold loop
    I have a 160 on the shelf I used during the summer which keeps the
    engine cooler in city traffic, but I took it out in Nov.
    Happy Holidays to one and all,

    The Silver Goat
    if it's the 04 C5, yes. if it's the 97-03, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrr23 View Post
    if it's the 04 C5, yes. if it's the 97-03, no.
    whats teh difference? I wouldve assumed its the same since the LS1 has remained very similar over the years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foff667 View Post
    whats teh difference? I wouldve assumed its the same since the LS1 has remained very similar over the years.
    GM changed the t-stat housings.
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    leave it to gm to confuse people
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    another thing i forgot. GM changed the housing so much, they had to modify the water pump to fit to it as well. some people have had to replace their water pump and their old t-stat housing not fit.

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