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    deleting torque managment?

    just want to know how you delete torque management on an efi live programer. is it in the torque reduction settings/??? i did find in the abuse section where you can disable torque reduction is this what i need to do?
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    I am not sure with efi live because I have HP Tuners. I would half the trans upshift torque reduction table and disable the abuse in the trans section. Make sure you increase the base shift pressures too. This is for an A4. I wouldn't disable all the torque management unless you want to buy another tranny. I would also install a 2-4 corvette servo. This will give you firm shifts at mid throttle and it will bark the tires between shifts at wot.
    Last edited by WS6ICK; 07-05-2008 at 03:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2000taws6 View Post
    I am not sure with efi live because I have HP Tuners. I would half the trans upshift torque reduction table and disable the abuse in the trans section. Make sure you increase the base shift pressures too. This is for an A4. I wouldn't disable all the torque management unless you want to buy another tranny. I would also install a 2-4 corvette servo. This will give you firm shifts at mid throttle and it will bark the tires between shifts at wot.

    A4 failure has never been linked to tq mngmnt deletion or linked to shorter trans life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    A4 failure has never been linked to tq mngmnt deletion or linked to shorter trans life.
    Really? I thought deleting tq mngmnt all together is a bad thing to do....I'm not being a smartass, just didn't realize it's alright to do with a stock tranny....

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    i purchased a 4l60e from goodfellas out of florida it already has the corvette servos and is suposedly able to handle up to 550 hp and 600 ft/lbs trq so i dont think that deleting the torque management will have to much of an effect on the car, considering i dont have that much power going to the flywheel anyways. thanks for the help guys. i regret not getting an hp tuner when everyone else is using it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jujofields View Post
    Really? I thought deleting tq mngmnt all together is a bad thing to do....I'm not being a smartass, just didn't realize it's alright to do with a stock tranny....
    I always leave it up to the customer, or only take half if they aren't sure. Almost all of them want it all gone, especially after you feel the difference. I have watched all of these cars run on the street and track over the years. Most of them last longer than people on the boards seem to think that they will. They break with full or moderate tq mngmnt when it's their time too.

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    Isn't there engine torque management and transmission torque management? I thought you zero out the engine torque management and half the trans torque management. This way your tranny will last a little longer.

    Frost: Do you zero out both?
    Last edited by WS6ICK; 07-23-2008 at 07:29 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    I always leave it up to the customer, or only take half if they aren't sure. Almost all of them want it all gone, especially after you feel the difference. I have watched all of these cars run on the street and track over the years. Most of them last longer than people on the boards seem to think that they will. They break with full or moderate tq mngmnt when it's their time too.
    frost is it standard that you do this for your mail order tunes as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by WS6ICK View Post
    Isn't there engine torque management and transmission torque management? I thought you zero out the engine torque management and half the trans torque management. This way your tranny will last a little longer.

    Frost: Do you zero out both?
    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    I always leave it up to the customer, or only take half if they aren't sure. Almost all of them want it all gone, especially after you feel the difference. I have watched all of these cars run on the street and track over the years. Most of them last longer than people on the boards seem to think that they will. They break with full or moderate tq mngmnt when it's their time too.


    Quote Originally Posted by clg82 View Post
    frost is it standard that you do this for your mail order tunes as well?
    You have a built trans, your tq management needs to be all gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    You have a built trans, your tq management needs to be all gone.

    so how do you do it just zero all the values?

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    What exactly does torque management actually do in terms of driveability and power??

    I have an M6 in my T/A, but I know my GTP has TM, just curious as to what exactly it does.

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    pulls lots of timing around shift time and can lift throttle on some ETC applications

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    had my tq management removed years ago and the car runs fine
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    tq mngmnt really kills engine momentum during the shifts. Couple that with tight factory converters and the cars just feel dead in the shifts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frost View Post
    pulls lots of timing around shift time and can lift throttle on some ETC applications
    Thanks, good to know.

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