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01-30-2011, 05:44 PM #1
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what is the difference between the 9 inch, 12bolt, and the S60. how much they weight, how strong, and noise difference
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01-30-2011, 06:01 PM #2
Strength: S60 > 9" > 12 bolt
Weight: S60 > 9" > 12 bolt
Efficiency: 12 bolt > S60 > 9"
May have the 9" and S60 reversed in the last one, but you get the idea.
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01-30-2011, 07:36 PM #3
I think the S60 has the most loss in efficiency but pretty dead on.
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01-31-2011, 03:31 AM #4
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01-31-2011, 07:53 AM #5
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Might want to throw cost into that little chart...
9" > 12-bolt > S60
aka: the 9" is the cheapest ad the S60 is the most expensive.
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01-31-2011, 07:57 AM #6
also the 12 bolt is a direct bolt in where you might have to do a little banging/fabbing here and there on the others.
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01-31-2011, 08:41 PM #7
There are a couple of companies that make direct bolt-in S60s and 9". My MidWest Chassis 9" went right in with no real modifications. I upgraded the driveshaft so I wouldn't have to use an adapter u-joint, but aside from that I could have used the stock control arms, PHB, and everything else. Also, the cost really depends on how you build it. You could build a 12-bolt that is more expensive or a 9" that costs over $4k.
Here's how I look at it- they are all better than the stock one! S60 has the largest ring gear diameter (9.75") whereas the 9" is, well, 9 inches, and the 12-bolt is 8.8 inches. This, along with weight, pinion offset, etc, helps to also explain the efficiency differences.2000 Pontiac Firehawk #0041 of 742
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02-03-2011, 02:28 PM #8
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02-03-2011, 03:24 PM #9
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02-03-2011, 05:50 PM #10
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02-03-2011, 05:55 PM #11
Just for giggles... here are some pics. First one shows the stock and aftermarket Moser 33 spline axle for my 12 bolt. Second is how I pressed off the reluctor rings to transfer them to the Moser axles.
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02-04-2011, 04:48 AM #12
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02-04-2011, 05:05 AM #13
I've got the S60 and their chrome moly drive shaft. At the time, which was 3-4 years ago, the S60 was cheaper than their 12 bolt. That was the deciding factor for me. The only complaint I have about it is a little howling from it around 1,800 rpm's.
Lt's,SFC,3,600 Fuddle stall,Spohn Adj. tunnel mount torque arm, BMR LCA,Ls6 intake,Air lid,Under drive pulley,S60 rear,Frost tune and a few more things I cant remember.
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02-04-2011, 06:35 AM #14
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02-04-2011, 07:29 AM #15
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02-04-2011, 03:45 PM #16
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02-04-2011, 03:56 PM #17
Here is the link to the Car Craft article: http://www.carcraft.com/techarticles...wap/index.html
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02-04-2011, 05:53 PM #18
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02-21-2011, 07:42 PM #19
I'm looking towards s60 idk a 12 bolt can cover it. bleh choices haha
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