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11-14-2007, 07:15 AM #1
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Artic White- 1999 Z28 408 Stroker M6
TSP Cams ???
I am putting a 383 stroker together as we speak, but i was looking at the TSP Magic Stick 4 Chamshaft. What have you guys experianced with TSP chamshafts and how do you like them?
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11-14-2007, 07:17 AM #2
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NBM / Silver- 00 SS / 71 SS Elcamino
I might be getting one as well. I have herd nothing but good about them. subscribed
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11-14-2007, 07:22 AM #3
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11-14-2007, 11:17 AM #4
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Red- 2000 Trans Am
Yeah, i have aswell, i have a lingenfelter cam, But i have heard good stuff about those Magic Sticks. Some are leaning towards horsepower peak instead of a nice curve though, thats the only reason i didnt like them. I heard they make good power but now that great of a powerband.
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11-14-2007, 11:27 AM #5
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I have a TSP Torquer V3. No problems with it...my tuner on the other hand...
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11-14-2007, 11:50 AM #6
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Red Tint Jewelcoat- 2008 Trailblazer SS
TSP uses Comp Cams grinds.
As do most shops.
I have a TSP grind in my stroker. Worked well with my set-up. It actually surprised me since I have Patriot heads.2008 Trailblazer SS
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11-14-2007, 12:01 PM #7
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MS4? No torque are you kidding? Look how flat this is!
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You been listening to the Bullshitters again haven't you?Last edited by PFM; 10-28-2008 at 06:02 AM.
TSP 347 SB, TSP Stage 2.5 PRC LS6, TSP MS4, Performabuilt Stage 2 4L60E, Yank PT4000, 4.11s, Fast 90/90, FTRA Cold air intake+all the free mods, Dynatech Supermaxx Exaust System, DMH Cutouts, Hooker Catback/FTRA Tips. Tuned by RPM/Garner NC. 11.28@119
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11-14-2007, 12:14 PM #8
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It's not bullshit. TSPs cams in general are a little soft in the midrange - and that's just the way it is. Been proven on a local dyno here time and time again. That being said, I put the MS4 in my 346, and absolutely love it. The MS4 is not ideal for a 383 though. TSP should be able to spec you a custom grind that will work better for the same price. Finally not only is the MS4 a little bigger than earlier Magic Sticks, but it drives worlds better. The MS (231/237) and MS2 (233/239) as well as the MS3 are very soft on torque. The MS4 uses a different intake lobe, and seems to do a little better. I couldn't tell you from personal experience though, as my loose converter never sees sub-4800 RPMs at WOT.
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11-14-2007, 05:26 PM #9
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Artic White- 1999 Z28 408 Stroker M6
All I have ever hear about TSP Cams are good things I like there overall horsepower feature. I love the Horsepower lol...
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11-14-2007, 09:48 PM #10
from what i have heard they have good cams. i have not bought mine yet, but im going to go with them! though mine is a smaller cam lol 224
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11-15-2007, 06:12 AM #11
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11-15-2007, 04:44 PM #12
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TSP uses Comp Cams blanks.
The grinds are TSP grinds they designed.
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11-15-2007, 04:55 PM #13
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11-15-2007, 04:59 PM #14
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11-15-2007, 05:06 PM #15
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White- 2002 WS6
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11-18-2007, 05:28 AM #16
I have a MS3 and it was shipped straight from comp cams. Like Mr. Lous said comp cam blanks TSP specs.
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11-19-2007, 11:37 AM #17
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Navy Blue Metallic- 2000 Camaro Z28
I love my MS4. If you are getting one and have valve reliefs on your new pistons, I would go with 110* (it will give you a better midrange and valve events) but like it was said a custom setup for your engine will work better.
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11-19-2007, 03:23 PM #18
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blue- 1998 tran/am
i'm looking at that same cam torquer v3 does it have a lop to the idle thanks
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11-19-2007, 03:30 PM #19
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Red Tint Jewelcoat- 2008 Trailblazer SS
Damn near any aftermarket cam will give you lope at idle.
That one you are talking about most certainly will.
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11-20-2007, 03:18 PM #20
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blue- 1998 tran/am
hey thanks for the info.it's just there so many out there to choose from
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