Ms4 cam

**ChevyLS1** · 05-23-2010, 05:26 PM

What valve spring and pushrods would i need to buy with a magic stick 4 cam...Its going in a 1998 camaro z28 with 131000 miles... gonna try to make it a daily driver...if you know anything about what i need please post what you know...thanks

**Z28boy2000** · 05-23-2010, 05:58 PM

rods id say hardend stocker from TSP, for springs i like the PRC Duals for springs

**Z28boy2000** · 05-23-2010, 05:59 PM

oh yeah and an amazing tune!

**ChevyLS1** · 05-24-2010, 04:34 PM

Do i need to replace the lifters when i get the ms4 cam?...oh and thanks for replying

**blwn_00gt** · 05-25-2010, 12:11 AM

i put the ms4 im my car with 109k on it and the only thing i changed was the cam and springs and have never had a problem..i would also suggest the tsp springs thats good for .675.....

**blwn_00gt** · 05-25-2010, 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by ChevyLS1

Do i need to replace the lifters when i get the ms4 cam?...oh and thanks for replying

no........

**Mr. Luos** · 05-25-2010, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by ChevyLS1

gonna try to make it a daily driver

You have my blessings.

**importhater81** · 05-25-2010, 04:21 PM

you're gonna need atleast a 3800 stall if you're an A4

**ChevyLS1** · 05-25-2010, 05:51 PM

Thanks for replying everyone

**2000ls1tranz** · 05-31-2010, 02:24 PM

awesome cam choice ....i have it an love it...u should get hardend push rods an dual springs from tsp go with the 6.75 only 50 bucks more..i would change the lifters i love the ls7 ones valvetrain noise is barly there with them..an a ls6 oil pump an ls2 chain..u will be at stock pushrod length if ur not touching ur heads....i got heads also an had to measure came to be 7.450 for the tsp prc 215 heads..hope it helped goodluck...oh yea get a damn good tune for that cam it will make a big differents in driveablitly

**Glue Maker** · 05-31-2010, 05:27 PM

ok this was the cam i was going to go with and have seen a lot of people running them what does it do that makes it not so street able is it just because its a big cam or what? my car wont be a DD but it will be driven on the street a majority of the time

**2000ls1tranz** · 05-31-2010, 05:56 PM

IMO it is streetable i dont really know why people say its not i have the ms4 like i said an love it...sometimes it bucks a lil an surges but its not hard to drive...lol

**Mr. Luos** · 05-31-2010, 09:05 PM

Originally Posted by 2000ls1tranz

IMO it is streetable i dont really know why people say its not i have the ms4 like i said an love it...sometimes it bucks a lil an surges but its not hard to drive...lol

In my opinion....if it surges, it isn't for a street car.

**2000ls1tranz** · 05-31-2010, 10:37 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

In my opinion....if it surges, it isn't for a street car.

you got to be kidding me right..dude my grandma could drive my car with the ms4 cam..lol its not fuckin bad i hate when people knock shit thats never had it...an really dont know what they are talkin bout...ur wrong bout the cam bro...quit looking at the numbers an size an find someone with one an drive it...an lets see if u have the same answer...

**ChevyLS1** · 06-01-2010, 02:24 AM

thanks again for replying everyone...i found out from a friend that the ms4 was to big for the flow of a 98 camaros stock heads or thats what they told me anyway...if you have any idea about that plaese reply...They are the same heads that came on the car from the factory for all 98 z28s

**garygnu65** · 06-01-2010, 03:20 AM

go to TSP website and look at the different cam kits they offer.you can talk to the guys a TSP and they help you find the right cam.

**Mr. Luos** · 06-01-2010, 05:36 AM

Originally Posted by 2000ls1tranz

you got to be kidding me right..dude my grandma could drive my car with the ms4 cam..lol its not fuckin bad i hate when people knock shit thats never had it...an really dont know what they are talkin bout...ur wrong bout the cam bro...quit looking at the numbers an size an find someone with one an drive it...an lets see if u have the same answer...

Still would.
If it surges...it isn't streetable.

Everyone has a different opinion of streetable. I don't want to put up with surging in a car on the street. Still trying to get all of mine ironed out.

My cam is larger than the MS4 by the way.

**PFM** · 06-01-2010, 07:54 AM

Never had any surging problems with mine and I drive it everyday to work that it isn't raining. But that problems more of a MT in the rain than a MS4 in a daily driver. I think the MS4 is more street friendly in an A4 car than it is in a M6. But the people I see surging have never met my tuner. I even ran my car with 2.73s in it for 6 months with no troubles.

**Marc 85Z28** · 06-01-2010, 08:27 AM

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

Still would.
If it surges...it isn't streetable.

Everyone has a different opinion of streetable. I don't want to put up with surging in a car on the street.

You are aware that the 97-00 LS1s sometimes surge with the STOCK CAM, right?