Magic stick 3

**murda_z28** · 09-16-2008, 04:05 PM

Texas speed recomended the magic stick 3 for my setup.
does anyone have this cam and if so would you recomend it?

**ls1camino** · 09-16-2008, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by murda_z28

Texas speed recomended the magic stick 3 for my setup.
does anyone have this cam and if so would you recomend it?

We need more info on your setup...

**murda_z28** · 09-16-2008, 04:39 PM

I have a 2000 ls1 a4 camaro. mods: 3.73, yank 3600 stall, slp lt headers w/high flow cats, slp lm cat back, slp smooth bellows and airbox lid, k&n air filter, ls-6 intake, asp under drive pulley.

**INMY01TA** · 09-16-2008, 05:15 PM

Daily driver? Pretty big cam there. For a weekend toy/drag car I'd use it, for daily driver I'd prolly go smaller. I'd do a search for "ms3" over on ls1tech.com, literally like 270ish pages of info will pop up.

**Spaz** · 09-16-2008, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by INMY01TA

Daily driver? Pretty big cam there. For a weekend toy/drag car I'd use it, for daily driver I'd prolly go smaller. I'd do a search for "ms3" over on ls1tech.com, literally like 270ish pages of info will pop up.

it can be tuned for street... if he has his own PC and LSedit or another program he can swap from a race tune and street tune...

**INMY01TA** · 09-16-2008, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by Spaz

it can be tuned for street... if he has his own PC and LSedit or another program he can swap from a race tune and street tune...

No amount of tuning will eliminate cam surge tho.

**dpinson** · 09-16-2008, 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by INMY01TA

No amount of tuning will eliminate cam surge tho.

you can tune the car to be streetable though
for instance my car and my buddies ws6 with the ms3 will idle perfectly in traffic and dont act to stupid i mean there is a sacrifice but if tuned correctly it is easily lived with

**Spaz** · 09-16-2008, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by INMY01TA

No amount of tuning will eliminate cam surge tho.

no... but it can be made streetable...

**murda_z28** · 09-16-2008, 06:20 PM

It's a daily driver and a weekend racer now. next year she will be paid off and plan on getting a fuel efficent daily driver. I can live with rough idle as long as it don't stall out. I plan on doing the cam late winter/ early spring. What 1/4 mile times should I expect? right now the best was 12.57 at 109mph

**Spaz** · 09-16-2008, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by murda_z28

It's a daily driver and a weekend racer now. next year she will be paid off and plan on getting a fuel efficent daily driver. I can live with rough idle as long as it don't stall out. I plan on doing the cam late winter/ early spring. What 1/4 mile times should I expect? right now the best was 12.57 at 109mph

on a stock LS1 if i remember right the MS3 has gone 11's... i think with cat back, intake, manifold and exhaust it was 10's...

**INMY01TA** · 09-16-2008, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by murda_z28

It's a daily driver and a weekend racer now. next year she will be paid off and plan on getting a fuel efficent daily driver. I can live with rough idle as long as it don't stall out. I plan on doing the cam late winter/ early spring. What 1/4 mile times should I expect? right now the best was 12.57 at 109mph

Getting the car to idle is not what I mean by cam surge, talking about the bucking at low rpms. Not sure how that affects autos tho. As for track times can easily hit low/flat 11s with mild weight reduction and the right stall, gears, and tires.