Getting a cam, 2 to choose from. Which one?

**Y2K_CAMARO** · 11-19-2008, 03:04 AM

I want to either get the MS3 cam, or the Torquer 2 cam, both from Texas Speed, obviously. I have a 2000 Z28 and my mods are SLP CAI, LT's, ORY, and SLP Loudmouth with a M6 tranny. I have heard great things from other people about both cams. The Torquer 2 making a little more on the Tq side. What do yall think?

**chieftransam** · 11-19-2008, 03:27 AM

You are upgrading your pushrods, valve springs, etc, at the same time as the cam upgrade correct?

You could always go with a custom grind cam...

**Y2K_CAMARO** · 11-19-2008, 04:02 AM

Yes, springs and pushrods are getting upgraded as well. I wouldn't really know what to get if I got a custom grind

**Gundlach9** · 11-19-2008, 09:50 AM

What are you looking to do with your car in the long run? Track or driven daily?

**Y2K_CAMARO** · 11-19-2008, 11:10 AM

I just want a fast street car

**Ryans99LS1** · 11-19-2008, 11:18 AM

Ill be going with a cam like the torquer but with a 110lsa.

And i want the same thing, a fast street car.

**Y2K_CAMARO** · 11-19-2008, 02:26 PM

Well if you get it soon, let me know what you think

**Ryans99LS1** · 11-19-2008, 03:51 PM

Wont be till summer. Im just not for the MS3 because of the power band it has. I want one from about 2500 to between 6000 and 6500. I dont wanna be revving over 6500. MS3 makes power all the way to 7

**Y2K_CAMARO** · 11-19-2008, 04:16 PM

Thats about the same power band I want

**chieftransam** · 11-19-2008, 08:41 PM

If you want to look into getting a custom cam then go PM Patrick G or Predator Z over on tech and tell them what you want such as street or strip cam, goals (1/4), plans (mods and or future mods), etc and they'll set you up with a custom grind cam.

Off the shelf grinds are great but they aren't for everyone. You should check into just to see what they say. My cam is a custom grind as well!!

**Y2K_CAMARO** · 11-19-2008, 10:04 PM

Hum, how much does a good custom cam usually run?

**BULLET_WS6** · 11-20-2008, 12:04 AM

can we please get specs... im too lazy to look them up... i know roughly what the ms3 is but not for sure... and the torquer 2 no idea

**BULLET_WS6** · 11-20-2008, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Y2K_CAMARO

Hum, how much does a good custom cam usually run?

same price as a off the shelf cam... like 395 from compcams

**Y2K_CAMARO** · 11-20-2008, 09:04 AM

Well thats not a bad price at all.
Here are the specs for each cam. I can pic any lobe separation I want, I hear a lot of people go with 112. Why is that?
Magic Stick 3 237/242 .603"/.609" 112 lobe separation
Torquer 2 232/234 .595"/.598" 112 lobe separation

**Bottesini** · 11-20-2008, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by Y2K_CAMARO

I just want a fast street car

Personally I would ask you to define a little more then fast street car. How much time on the street, daily drive it or just something to play with on the weekends ? What else will be going with the cam heads, gears, stall (for auto only), etc. Best to get some clear goals before you start dumping money into parts.

On a side note, with my mild cam 226/228 .585/.588 lsa 112 and stock heads needs 6500-6700 as a good shift point. I can only imagine the bigger cams wanting to go much higher into the RPMs, which will mean you need heads, intake, and bottom end to take that kind of abuse well.

**BULLET_WS6** · 11-20-2008, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by Y2K_CAMARO

Well thats not a bad price at all.
Here are the specs for each cam. I can pic any lobe separation I want, I hear a lot of people go with 112. Why is that?
Magic Stick 3 237/242 .603"/.609" 112 lobe separation
Torquer 2 232/234 .595"/.598" 112 lobe separation

i would def say no to ms3, the torquer 2 is pretty reasonable, will sound a bit choppy and nice withthe 112 lsa and high lift... the offset isnt too high but is good... you will benefit fromheads, but you can wait for them if you really want todo it now

**Y2K_CAMARO** · 11-20-2008, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by Bottesini

Personally I would ask you to define a little more then fast street car. How much time on the street, daily drive it or just something to play with on the weekends ? What else will be going with the cam heads, gears, stall (for auto only), etc. Best to get some clear goals before you start dumping money into parts.

On a side note, with my mild cam 226/228 .585/.588 lsa 112 and stock heads needs 6500-6700 as a good shift point. I can only imagine the bigger cams wanting to go much higher into the RPMs, which will mean you need heads, intake, and bottom end to take that kind of abuse well.

It will be a DD. A rear end will come later with gears

Originally Posted by BULLET_WS6

i would def say no to ms3, the torquer 2 is pretty reasonable, will sound a bit choppy and nice withthe 112 lsa and high lift... the offset isnt too high but is good... you will benefit fromheads, but you can wait for them if you really want todo it now

I have heard a couple of people with the MS3 say that they wish they would have gone with the Torquer 2

**BULLET_WS6** · 11-20-2008, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by Y2K_CAMARO

It will be a DD. A rear end will come later with gears

I have heard a couple of people with the MS3 say that they wish they would have gone with the Torquer 2

yeah it wouldnt be much fun in a dd in traffic... i can honestly say i never ever stall cars, but i got in my friend with an ms4, and wow... i stalled three times before i figured out how to get that puppy moving... very embarassing... my old car was very hard to drive stick and i never once stalled it so i was quite shocked... maybe i just turned into a weiner

**Y2K_CAMARO** · 11-20-2008, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by BULLET_WS6

yeah it wouldnt be much fun in a dd in traffic... i can honestly say i never ever stall cars, but i got in my friend with an ms4, and wow... i stalled three times before i figured out how to get that puppy moving... very embarassing... my old car was very hard to drive stick and i never once stalled it so i was quite shocked... maybe i just turned into a weiner

Lol, I guess it would take some getting use to

**BULLET_WS6** · 11-20-2008, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Y2K_CAMARO

Lol, I guess it would take some getting use to

it really isnt that bad after the first launch or two... i was able to drive it around just fine after the initial retard moments... it just isnt very convenient in stop and go traffic. Sure you get used to it, but adds a bit more to the task of driving