Cam with 10 bolt

**Mike0202** · 05-15-2011, 01:29 PM

Welp heres the deal. Im in school and low on cash. I have enough for a cam but I do not have enough to upgrade the 10 bolt or the stock clutch. My setup is Long tubes, TSP Y, LM1 and a Lid. I would like to put down around 385-390rwh just enough to break into the 11's. Should I cam the car or wait?

**Knight** · 05-15-2011, 02:51 PM

The problem will be if you get traction with the rear. In stock form, our cars have been known to destroy them. Adding power isn't much of a benefit if you can't transfer it to the ground. It can be a tough decision to make, but I've always felt it's better to build a solid drivetrain first to handle the added power. Trust me, it costs less to wait and upgrade than to wait and fix what breaks.

And by upgrading the 10 bolt, I hope you mean replacing it with a 9" or 12 bolt. Don't bother sinking money into the stocker, it's a waste. Ask me how I know.

**Mike0202** · 05-15-2011, 03:43 PM

It gets expensive doesnt it? I am in the process of getting an ls6 intake. Maybe I should just wait since a 12 bolt would probably go for around 3 grand.

**Mr. Luos** · 05-15-2011, 04:41 PM

My 9" was $2400 shipped.
No ABS/TCS though. No drain/fill plugs. Barebones basically.

Cam on the 10 bolt will be fine. Don't think you will be seeing 11's too often on it though....as you need to be able to hook and that will kill that stock rear.
If I recall....your car is an M6 as well correct?? That isn't helping anything.

**Mike0202** · 05-15-2011, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Luos

My 9" was $2400 shipped.
No ABS/TCS though. No drain/fill plugs. Barebones basically.

Cam on the 10 bolt will be fine. Don't think you will be seeing 11's too often on it though....as you need to be able to hook and that will kill that stock rear.
If I recall....your car is an M6 as well correct?? That isn't helping anything.

Yeah its an m6. I wouldnt run it down the track until I have the cash for the 12 bolt.

**RyanJM** · 05-15-2011, 05:20 PM

I have a cam and stall with a stock 10 bolt with 3.73's and it's fun but I don't track the car or plan to run DR's until I get a 9". I know it would break at the track but for the streets and a few red light or roll races it has held up.

**Lunatikgixxer** · 05-15-2011, 05:30 PM

my 10 bolt has been fine at the track but with street tires and i get no traction. i know it would be just as fast without the cam or faster so do the clutch or the rear end first. its just a waste of money to do the power first imo and if i could go back i would of spent my money on a new rear end first!

**Mike0202** · 05-15-2011, 05:54 PM

I have been looking at the texas speed Tor.V2 cam. Just looking for something that drives good and sounds mean I guess.

Next step is the LS6 for sure.

Then I cant decide if it would be worth porting the stock tb or not.

Then I have to decide on the cam/10 bolt/clutch.

**peterlawl84** · 05-15-2011, 07:00 PM

I went with a mild cam because I was hoping not to have to replace the drivetrain. Mine is an A4 and put down 394 with big wheels that do not help with traction and both my trans and 10-bolt went out within 6 months. And I just drive mine on the street. I ended up spending quite a bit on a built trans with stall and a moser 12 bolt and everything holds up great, except I spin like crazy.

Since you have a m6, I would suggest getting a 9" instead of a 12-bolt, but also I would save up for it before it breaks especially if its your DD.

**Mike0202** · 05-15-2011, 07:13 PM

Alright thanks.I guess ill finish the bolt ons and then do the rear and clutch

**BlackSS1** · 05-17-2011, 06:39 PM

Experiences vary, but I have a cammed car for 2 years on a stock 10 bolt with no problems at all. It is a street car with very sticky tires. It may hold up fine for you too....cams only add 10-15% more HP. Your call.

Def. do the LS6 intake first, and a clutch if yours is slipping at all. The stock clutch is WEAK.

**35th-ANV-SS** · 05-17-2011, 06:46 PM

Build the drive train first. HP doesn't win races. Traction and torque does

Yes, there are some people running H/C/I stalled auto's with the stock 10 bolt and it has been fine. Yes there are M6 bolt-on cars with 10 bolts that have held up.

I bet if you take a poll though, those numbers would probably be swayed 80-20, with the majority having 10 bolt issues.

**Knight** · 05-17-2011, 06:53 PM

Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS

Build the drive train first. HP doesn't win races. Traction and torque does

Yes, there are some people running H/C/I stalled auto's with the stock 10 bolt and it has been fine. Yes there are M6 bolt-on cars with 10 bolts that have held up.

I bet if you take a poll though, those numbers would probably be swayed 80-20, with the majority having 10 bolt issues.

^This.

Ask Spaz, and many others.... the stock 10 bolt may last for a while. But you never know when it will go. Spaz's went just driving normally. And being stuck on the side of the road, who knows where, isn't fun.