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    I just finished up my cam install and put down some nice numbers (in sig) now looking for a nice set of heads.. I was thinking about the New Patriots that came out but wasn't sure if they were the "best bang for the buck".. I am planning on milling the heads also and port matching with my 90mm FAST intake....Which heads do you think are the best????
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    My buddy keeps talking about the AFR heads. but knowing that Dart has a new set out and for $1,600 assembled up to an .625 lift cam. thats the way i would go

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    I like the afr heads..but i'm not paying $2300 for the same performance i can get from a $1200 patriot.... Are the darts good??? Not made shitty are they? I want to make the max power with out maxin my wallet out

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    No offense to Patriot, but I just don't think that they are the best flowing head out there.... although they may be the cheapest. If you have the cash to go with something like AFR, I would do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NeeD4SpeeD
    I just finished up my cam install and put down some nice numbers (in sig) now looking for a nice set of heads.. I was thinking about the New Patriots that came out but wasn't sure if they were the "best bang for the buck".. I am planning on milling the heads also and port matching with my 90mm FAST intake....Which heads do you think are the best????
    what size cam?

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    what size cam?
    The cam is a TR 232/237 .595/.605 112LSA....pretty big so i want nice heads to help with flow...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyTownFBody
    No offense to Patriot, but I just don't think that they are the best flowing head out there.... although they may be the cheapest. If you have the cash to go with something like AFR, I would do it.
    I dunno man...alot of people on here sware by patriot performance... I heard their now LS6 heads 205cc were very good if not better then afr.... I'm not claiming they are this is just what i've heard from numerious people....

    Also 1 guy told me that with 2 seperate dyno runs and 1 with the afr 204 and the other with the pat 205 the pat actually added 9hp more then the afr...Duuno if its true or not but this is what he told me....

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyTownFBody
    No offense to Patriot, but I just don't think that they are the best flowing head out there.... although they may be the cheapest. If you have the cash to go with something like AFR, I would do it.
    I dunno man...alot of people on here sware by patriot performance... I heard their now LS6 heads 205cc were very good if not better then afr.... I'm not claiming they are this is just what i've heard from numerious people....

    Also 1 guy told me that with 2 seperate dyno runs and 1 with the afr 205 and the other with the pat 205 the pat actually added 9hp more then the afr...Duuno if its true or not but this is what he told me....

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    Buy the patroits and use the left over money for a 12 bolt rear, you are just paying for afr's R and D.

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    Buy the patroits and use the left over money for a 12 bolt rear, you are just paying for afr's R and D.

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    Patriot's heads are by far the best bang for the buck ls-series heads out there. i got a set of NEW stg II ls6, assembled with dual valve springs and upgraded valves for $980 on ebay. they flow great, 304 cfm @ .600 lift intake and 229 @ .600 ex. best $980 i ever spent!

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    Quote Originally Posted by FunkyTownFBody
    No offense to Patriot, but I just don't think that they are the best flowing head out there.... although they may be the cheapest. If you have the cash to go with something like AFR, I would do it.
    if you want to pay almost double for a set of heads that make around 10 more horsepower, go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wesTXwitesnake05
    Patriot's heads are by far the best bang for the buck ls-series heads out there. i got a set of NEW stg II ls6, assembled with dual valve springs and upgraded valves for $980 on ebay. they flow great, 304 cfm @ .600 lift intake and 229 @ .600 ex. best $980 i ever spent!
    I went with the Patriot stage II LS6 style heads also. It's hard to beat $1,275 for the heads with gaskets and head bolts. I couldn't justify paying twice that for AFR's, and a LITTLE extra power.

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    hhmmm a hard choice afr or paitroits either will work fine imho

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    if you got the cash go with afr but for the price of the afr's u could get patriot's heads and a good set of shaft mounted rockers, and probably still have some change
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    Don't rule out PRC heads either. Last time I checked they were decently priced. Although I think their stage 2.5 ls6 heads are a bit pricey their stage 1 ls6 heads and stage 1/2.5 5.3l heads are pretty cheap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~redlinels1~
    Don't rule out PRC heads either. Last time I checked they were decently priced. Although I think their stage 2.5 ls6 heads are a bit pricey their stage 1 ls6 heads and stage 1/2.5 5.3l heads are pretty cheap.

    Prc has some heads for $899 I believe, but they come with the early LS6 springs. Unless you have a baby cam, you'll have to swap out the springs and then you pay as much as the Patriots, which come with head gaskets and bolts. If you do have a small cam then you probably don't want the PRC's anyways, as they have 237 cc intake runners. With runner volume like that, I don't think I'd buy the PRC's unless I was using a big/high lift cam.

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    theres some uneducated people when it comes to heads in this thread...

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