Subframe Connectors

**BirdCountry02** · 02-16-2010, 09:36 AM

I'm going to finally be buying SFC's in the spring sometime, but I was wondering if I should get the regular: http://kentucky-speed.com/umi-perfor...bab8f704749082 or the 3 point ones: http://kentucky-speed.com/umi-perfor...bab8f704749082?
I'm leaning towards the regular as they're $100 less, but if it's worth it i'll try the 3 point but $$ is a factor. My car is DD'd, might see a little track time later, but hasn't yet. Forgot to ask, it's also better to have them welded in vs bolted in correct? Thanks for any help guys

**shady milkman** · 02-16-2010, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by BirdCountry02

I'm going to finally be buying SFC's in the spring sometime, but I was wondering if I should get the regular: http://kentucky-speed.com/umi-perfor...bab8f704749082 or the 3 point ones: http://kentucky-speed.com/umi-perfor...bab8f704749082?
I'm leaning towards the regular as they're $100 less, but if it's worth it i'll try the 3 point but $$ is a factor. My car is DD'd, might see a little track time later, but hasn't yet. Forgot to ask, it's also better to have them welded in vs bolted in correct? Thanks for any help guys

well it comes down to how much protection do you want? the two point will help for sure, and you can get away with it. However the three point really just ties everything together more and increases rigidity. I went 3 point and i love the way they look and feel. Onto your second question. bolt in SFC can be welded at a latter time, however the problem with bolt in..is that with prolonged use, the bolt holes could become "warped" and not provide the level of rigidity as before. For that reason and the reason that weld is a much more solid install. i went with the weld in. You will for sure love the umi SFC and will be singing their praises

**mark21742** · 02-16-2010, 09:53 AM

I'll recomend the 3 point, its ties everything in tighter. If you have the ability to do it yourself go for the weld in.

But just remember when you go to intall them jcak the car up and support it with stands under the axle and front control arms so the weight is distrbuted just like the car would be sitting on the ground with the weight on the tires...if not you can pull the car into a twist

**DIRTY JERZY** · 02-16-2010, 11:48 AM

go 3 point you wont regret it

**El Toro Loco** · 02-16-2010, 04:15 PM

i know this is probaly is int recommended but can u put the on bricks or stands n just have the tires loaded like that

**mark21742** · 02-16-2010, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by El Toro Loco

i know this is probaly is int recommended but can u put the on bricks or stands n just have the tires loaded like that

Ramps, jackstands or wood blocks... NEVER use bricks or cinder blocks because they can crack and crumble. I'm a perfect example of that, had a car jacked up on cement blocks and while I was under it one of the blocks shattered, the car fell on me and I fractured 3 ribs. I was lucky the tires were still on the car so it didn't kill me.

**km346** · 02-16-2010, 05:23 PM

Ive had the UMI 2 point bolt in SFC's in my car for the last couple years and i love them. I was thinking about getting the 3 point ones but decided i would try and save some weight and got the 2 points. Also fwiw I used locktite on the bolts and have had no problems with them comming loose.

**basballny2** · 02-16-2010, 05:46 PM

depends how much power you plan to make, with just bolt ons the 2 pts. are fine. i went with bolt on UMI's

**BirdCountry02** · 02-16-2010, 06:48 PM

Thanks for all the reply's guys. Helps deciding alot. I'll prob use your advice Shady and go weld in 3 points, but right now money is kinda tight. If I don't do that, i'll do bolt in 2 points for the time being so I can upgrade to weld in 3 points within a year or so. It's DD'd and not making big power at all & i'm just running bolt ons for a few years. If I can't afford the best right now, at least i'll be protected with the 2 points until I can

**shady milkman** · 02-17-2010, 03:28 AM

Originally Posted by BirdCountry02

Thanks for all the reply's guys. Helps deciding alot. I'll prob use your advice Shady and go weld in 3 points, but right now money is kinda tight. If I don't do that, i'll do bolt in 2 points for the time being so I can upgrade to weld in 3 points within a year or so. It's DD'd and not making big power at all & i'm just running bolt ons for a few years. If I can't afford the best right now, at least i'll be protected with the 2 points until I can

keep in mind this one fact..your car has made it for 8 years without them. so if you have to wait 1 more year or a few months to get the 3 points..then the car will be fine. If you get the 2 point sfc only to swap them out for 3 points later...it will be a bigger waste of money.

mind you that with your car just being a DD and not making huge power..SFC's are not a time-critical mod.

**El Toro Loco** · 02-17-2010, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by mark21742

Ramps, jackstands or wood blocks... NEVER use bricks or cinder blocks because they can crack and crumble. I'm a perfect example of that, had a car jacked up on cement blocks and while I was under it one of the blocks shattered, the car fell on me and I fractured 3 ribs. I was lucky the tires were still on the car so it didn't kill me.

YEAH i meant amount wood blocks or something along that edge yea i ve experienced the cemetn blocks thing before car fell on my uncle luckliy i was there to jack up the car quick.

**BirdCountry02** · 02-17-2010, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

keep in mind this one fact..your car has made it for 8 years without them. so if you have to wait 1 more year or a few months to get the 3 points..then the car will be fine. If you get the 2 point sfc only to swap them out for 3 points later...it will be a bigger waste of money.

mind you that with your car just being a DD and not making huge power..SFC's are not a time-critical mod.

Thanks man, that helps alot. I didn't think of it that way, you made a great point. I'll just save up a little bit longer and do it right the first time

**ramtough9** · 02-17-2010, 11:48 AM

I have a convertable and all the SFC's I have looked at on Jegs or Summit are for convertables. Do they make them for convertables and where can I get them?

**basballny2** · 02-17-2010, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by ramtough9

I have a convertable and all the SFC's I have looked at on Jegs or Summit are for convertables. Do they make them for convertables and where can I get them?

this.......
and yes they make them for convertables even though all the ones youve seen have been for convertables.......
http://kentucky-speed.com/bmr-fabric...405d43fbbc171f

**ramtough9** · 02-17-2010, 12:13 PM

Thanks for the link. I would like to go with the weld in 3 point but it didn't say if they will work or not with the verts. If I can't then the others are better than nothing.

**basballny2** · 02-17-2010, 12:27 PM

what kinda power numbers are you making?? mods??

**ramtough9** · 02-17-2010, 12:35 PM

stock now but I will be adding ported & polished heads, cam, new intake and tb, headers with true duals maybe some cutouts, irridium plugs and msd wires and it has a slp box on it now. Not going to go with a supercharger or nos. I am not getting too crazy with it. Just want a nice fast ride. It is not bad now but it will be better. It is a WS6 vert.

**ramtough9** · 02-17-2010, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by ramtough9

I have a convertable and all the SFC's I have looked at on Jegs or Summit are for convertables. Do they make them for convertables and where can I get them?

I meant to say that all the ones I have looked at were NOT for convertables.