Stock Sway Bar Specs

**blk91rs** · 02-04-2009, 11:57 PM

Does anybody know where i can get stock sway bar specs for all 82-02 camaro/ Firebird/TA

looking to see which year had best.

Thank you

JP

**9T8W66** · 02-05-2009, 05:58 AM

If your looking for the best set up for a 3rd Gen then look for a WS6 set.
And I believe they were 34mm front and 21mm rear but I'm not positive,
I'm sure someones else will post up the specs.

**bigrondownhiller** · 02-05-2009, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by 9T8W66

If your looking for the best set up for a 3rd Gen then look for a WS6 set.
And I believe they were 34mm front and 21mm rear but I'm not positive,
I'm sure someones else will post up the specs.

You could also get some from a 1le camaro but they can get pricey.

**blk91rs** · 02-07-2009, 06:49 AM

Thanks,

Just measured the sway bars on my RS and they are 34mm front and 21mm rear.

The reason I ask, If my stocks are good, dont want/need to pay too much for a sway bar. Dont care ifs its powder coated as long as it does the job. Just want the best stock part.

If i could get it from ebay or bone yard its cool.

Just wanted to know if 4th Gens had better sway bars than 3rd gens since they commanded more power than 3rd's.

Its very hard to find 3rd gens in my area. They have been crushed so 4th gens are the next option.

If anybody could help.
What are some fourth gen sway bar stats????

**blk91rs** · 02-07-2009, 07:07 AM

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/su...oc-z-sway.html

Found this link.

Should answer some 3rd gen questions not any 4th gen though.

**9T8W66** · 02-07-2009, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by blk91rs

Thanks,

Just measured the sway bars on my RS and they are 34mm front and 21mm rear.

The reason I ask, If my stocks are good, dont want/need to pay too much for a sway bar. Dont care ifs its powder coated as long as it does the job. Just want the best stock part.

If i could get it from ebay or bone yard its cool.

Just wanted to know if 4th Gens had better sway bars than 3rd gens since they commanded more power than 3rd's.

Its very hard to find 3rd gens in my area. They have been crushed so 4th gens are the next option.

If anybody could help.
What are some fourth gen sway bar stats????

The 3rd gen bars were larger.
4th gen WS6 and SS swaybars are 32mm F and 19mm R
Z28, Formula and Trans Am bars are 30mm F and 19mm R

I'm currently running Strano 35/22 Hollow swaybar set.

**Siciliano15** · 02-19-2009, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by 9T8W66

The 3rd gen bars were larger.
4th gen WS6 and SS swaybars are 32mm F and 19mm R
Z28, Formula and Trans Am bars are 30mm F and 19mm R

I'm currently running Strano 35/22 Hollow swaybar set.

good info.... also note that the stock front bar is hollow and the rear is solid. today i just put on a solid 32mm chrome-moly spohn front bar and it made a HUGE difference in the handling. now im waiting for the strano hollow rear bar to arrive. i was going to go with the strano 35mm solid front but i didnt want to add all of that weight so i went with the spohn but its solid chrome moly and i can tell its really a lot stronger than a normal 32mm bar.

**JwMonE99** · 02-20-2009, 07:43 AM

I got a stock front Z28 4th gen sway bar, let me know if you need it or if it helps.

**Sam Strano** · 02-24-2009, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Siciliano15

good info.... also note that the stock front bar is hollow and the rear is solid. today i just put on a solid 32mm chrome-moly spohn front bar and it made a HUGE difference in the handling. now im waiting for the strano hollow rear bar to arrive. i was going to go with the strano 35mm solid front but i didnt want to add all of that weight so i went with the spohn but its solid chrome moly and i can tell its really a lot stronger than a normal 32mm bar.

I hate to tell you the Spohn bar is only about 4 pounds lighter than my 35mm solid, but about 30% softer in roll stiffness.

CM doesn't weight less than mild steel, and strength of a bar comes mostly from the size of the OD. The difference between a hollow and solid bar in the same size, say 32mm isn't huge (some but not even double digits percentage wise). You basically added almost as much weight as a solid 35 in front and got a lot less roll stiffness for it.............

**Siciliano15** · 02-25-2009, 06:14 AM

Originally Posted by Sam Strano

I hate to tell you the Spohn bar is only about 4 pounds lighter than my 35mm solid, but about 30% softer in roll stiffness.

CM doesn't weight less than mild steel, and strength of a bar comes mostly from the size of the OD. The difference between a hollow and solid bar in the same size, say 32mm isn't huge (some but not even double digits percentage wise). You basically added almost as much weight as a solid 35 in front and got a lot less roll stiffness for it.............

u may be right Sam, u have more experience than me..... but i did notice a big difference going to this front bar and there were no other changes to any other part of the suspension made. the car is basically flat going around the same turns i always do where before the car would lean noticeably. If going from hollow to solid isnt supposed to make a huge difference than the chrome moly must be coming into play.

take a umi subframe connector for example..... they offer either a mild steel version 1.75" by .120" wall thickness or for increased strength but lighter weight they offer the same 1.75" bar but with .095" wall thickness in CM. if u calculate it the CM version's thickness is 79% of the mild steel version. so if u go to CM over mild steel u only need 79% of the material in order to have the same if not more strength.

then if u calculate the 32mm spohn CM swaybar i have vs a 35mm mild steel, the spohn's thickness is 91% of the 35mm bar which is def way more than the 79% necessary to maintain the same strength so thats why i figured i might as well save the 4-5 pounds and get the spohn in front and then get the strano hollow bar in back and save another 4-5 pounds there. i just wanted to try to attempt to explain my logic haha but if i am looking at this all wrong then by all means let me know cause im open to learning new things.

**Sam Strano** · 02-25-2009, 09:25 AM

The CM is NOT coming into play. The bar is stiffer, and that makes a difference. Imagine what a much stiffer bar would feel like.....

CM is only lighter in hollow parts because it allows a thinner wall tubing to be used. Not exactly the case with a SOLID swaybar, is it?

You are making assumptions based on theory that is not realistic and you frankly don't understand that a SFC and a Swaybar are not the same thing and that CM makes no difference in how resistant to flex a swaybar is.

**Sam Strano** · 02-25-2009, 09:26 AM

And here's what's more humorous to me. You figure that since 32mm is 91% of 35 then there only a 9% difference. Wrong. You figure bar stiffness by the OD to the 4th power. A 35mm bar is some 30% stiffer than a 32mm solid to solid.

**Siciliano15** · 02-25-2009, 10:53 AM

i dont doubt your claim that a 35mm mild steel is 30% stiffer than a 32mm mild steel. however, if one bar is made out of stronger material (chrome moly) than the other then i think that comes into play as well. try making a bar out of aluminum and see how much body roll you get.

**Fast Toys** · 02-28-2009, 03:23 PM

Definitely take Sam's advice. He knows a thing or two about making Fbodies handle!

Both his sway bars and springs usually sell out fast and that reflects the quality and performance.