Ordered SFCs !

**hamburger68** · 08-17-2007, 07:38 AM

just have to share this:

i ordered a pair of edelbrock subframe connectors 5 minutes ago. not a big deal in itself, but i had a shipping quote from a us company: it would have come to 440 - 450 euro (540 us +-) to import them to germany myself.
now i get them for 219.50 euro !!! (260 us +-)
letdown is a 8 -10 week wait, cause they ship by sea...
but still:

**DanWS6** · 08-17-2007, 06:23 PM

Damn and I get impatient when I have to wait a week for something to arrive..

Congrats man

**{FzS}BlacKMagicK** · 08-17-2007, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by hamburger68

just have to share this:

i ordered a pair of edelbrock subframe connectors 5 minutes ago. not a big deal in itself, but i had a shipping quote from a us company: it would have come to 440 - 450 euro (540 us +-) to import them to germany myself.
now i get them for 219.50 euro !!! (260 us +-)
letdown is a 8 -10 week wait, cause they ship by sea...
but still:

Hey that's great!!!

I gotta get off my lazy butt and call GW and order mine.

I'm just wondering if I'm gonna have to take my exhaust apart.

I have headers, Y and catback, does anyone know if I'll have to take the exhaust apart to weld on SFC's?

I've never really been able to get a good look underneath, was gonna today but when I went to go pick up a jack, they were out of the all aluminum race jack I wanted. That's Ok though, 'cause I found an even better one, but will have to wait til tomorrow to get it, that's if this new place has it in stock.

**hamburger68** · 08-18-2007, 01:53 AM

from what i know, you're fine as long you dont run true duals. i don't know about triangular sfcs though.
good writeup and pics:
http://www.installuniversity.com/ins...sity/index.htm

and as for the wait: i think 250 bucks are worth a little waiting...
but i know what you mean, i'm usually the same.

**{FzS}BlacKMagicK** · 08-18-2007, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by hamburger68

from what i know, you're fine as long you dont run true duals. i don't know about triangular sfcs though.
good writeup and pics:
http://www.installuniversity.com/ins...sity/index.htm

and as for the wait: i think 250 bucks are worth a little waiting...
but i know what you mean, i'm usually the same.

Cool thanks, triangular sfc's?

Never seen those, who makes em'?

**hamburger68** · 08-19-2007, 01:54 AM

Bitteschön:

http://www.lmperformance.com/3715/1.html

**{FzS}BlacKMagicK** · 08-19-2007, 08:52 PM

Originally Posted by hamburger68

Bitteschön:

http://www.lmperformance.com/3715/1.html

Oh ok, I thought the connector itself would be triangular, like boxed vs. round or tubed, I thought they had a triangular one too...lol

I want to go with the round, but the ones I want to get are supposed to be made from the same material used for roll cages, I figure you really can't get better than that.

**hamburger68** · 08-20-2007, 07:30 AM

i guess that would be a good choice, or the boxed ones, staticly more rigid. since the regular edelbrocks where the only ones i could get over here for a reasonable price, i'm happy with them. better than nothing!

**{FzS}BlacKMagicK** · 08-20-2007, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by hamburger68

i guess that would be a good choice, or the boxed ones, staticly more rigid. since the regular edelbrocks where the only ones i could get over here for a reasonable price, i'm happy with them. better than nothing!

I think that boxed being statistically more rigid is debatable, one of the sponsors here sells both types and states the round are more rigid, if they were the same thickness as a roll cage I would go with them, the other argument would be if boxed are more rigid why don't they make box shape roll cages?

Would be interesting to see compression tests performed on both.

**hamburger68** · 08-21-2007, 01:16 AM

that's what bmr says about their sfcs, they use roll cage tubing on their round ones:

If strength is your number one priority, choose the boxed design. Boxed tubing is torsionally stronger than round tubing however you will lose approximately 3/4" of ground clearance when using this style. If your car is lowered and ground clearance is the prime concern, go with the tubular model. While round tubing is not as strong torsionally, there are other features to these subframe connectors that make them more rigid than most other tubular models available.

btw: i just checked, the edelbrock sfcs i ordered are made from the 1-5/8 inch roll cage tubing...

**{FzS}BlacKMagicK** · 08-21-2007, 11:49 PM

Originally Posted by hamburger68

that's what bmr says about their sfcs, they use roll cage tubing on their round ones:

btw: i just checked, the edelbrock sfcs i ordered are made from the 1-5/8 inch roll cage tubing...

Right...1-5/8"...the ones I'm looking at uses 2" rollcage tubing @ .125" thickness, most others use .120"

The two inch is available for my car, an 01 non-vert, but not all.

Subframe for 1993-02 non convertible.
Our subframe connector is made out of 2 inch roll cage .125" wall tubing. Some competitors look similar in the design however they are made out of small outer diameter 1 5/8 tubing.

Here is Granatelli Motorsports answering the question of which is stronger (at least of the brand they sell?)

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showpost.p...&postcount=169

Note that in the quote you gave from BMR they say torsionally (as in twist) maybe the round are stronger front to back wise, or compression wise, like would be experienced during launching and braking, I just can't imagine why they wouldn't use boxed bars in full blown roll cages if it's stronger.

**third_shift|studios** · 08-22-2007, 06:25 AM

so, who in germany knows how/where to weld on an F-body?

**hamburger68** · 08-22-2007, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by third_shift|studios

so, who in germany knows how/where to weld on an F-body?

certainly i don't, but i know (professional) people who do! and sfcs aren't the most comlicated parts to mount.

**hamburger68** · 08-22-2007, 01:25 PM

Note that in the quote you gave from BMR they say torsionally (as in twist) maybe the round are stronger front to back wise, or compression wise, like would be experienced during launching and braking, I just can't imagine why they wouldn't use boxed bars in full blown roll cages if it's stronger.

round tubing is surely safer to use inside a car (better than bumping against a square one). also, it's easier to work with, bendable etc. maybe lighter too, i would be guessing. but i really don't know, and don't care too much, since i'm getting the round ones anyway.