View Poll Results: Do/Did you regret purchasing lowering springs?

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  • No. Handles better and looks sweet!

    121 76.58%
  • Yes. Handled too rough and I bottom out everywhere!

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    Do/Did you regret buying lowering springs?

    I've heard some people complain abouit clearance issues...hence the poll.

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    yes and no

    regret getting the SLP kit... car looks off with front higher than rear.
    regret getting the sportlines... too low and soft, handles like sh!t
    don't regret getting the prokits... more suspension travel than sportlines, and linear rates adequate for the given suspension travel.
    don't regret getting the GC coil-overs with the wanted spring rates.
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    anyone try out Dynamics springs?

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    I got a lightly use set of DMS springs for a price I couldn't resist, so I got them. They are progresive springs with 325-630# in the front and 95-160# in the rear. I had 1le with the koni's before these.

    Here are my impressions so far:
    -The car looks awesome it has a nice rake, I was lowered by a tad over an inch. I would even consider the hose mod in the back if I wanted that nascar slammed look. but my Torque arm and exhaust wouldn't survive. The front is perfect and about as low as I would go.

    -The car turns much flatter and hardly dives when breaking hard.

    -Driving around town is still decent hardly noticeable from stock, it is a bit rougher on crappy roads. Large pot holes will send you to the Chiropractor! (valving on my shocks is set fairly stiff).

    -rear spring is a bit softer than the 1Le so I experience a bit more rubbing with my 18" corvette rims (need a bigger spacer), however this happened on extreme race track cornering. Nothing on the street. I went to a track day with my street tires I got dedicated race rubber on my old WS6 rims now so it is a non-issue.

    -I have to be really carefull over entrance ramps and such. I have a tranny mounted Torque arm and the cross brace hangs pretty low. So I've scraped it a few times, mostly just testing how high a ramp or or incline I could go over.

    So the question is Would I do it again? and it is a resounding yes.
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    wow...good review fore DMS!

    so you did DMS with Konis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by third_shift|studios View Post
    so you did DMS with Konis?
    yup.

    I'm waiting for Sam's Springs materialize. But in the meanwhile I figured I try these. I'm now playing with the settings on the shocks to get the car to handle the way I want it at the track. Not to say it isn't good right now but just looking for the sweet spot.

    My shock settings are as follows:
    Front Bump: 4 turns from full stiff
    Front Rebound: 5 clicks (from soft)
    Rear Bump: 1/2 turn from full soft
    Rear Rebound: 4 clicks from soft

    I may step up to a 35mm front swaybar I still have a slight push on really tight corners that I want to dial out. If I can't do it with shocks.
    Last edited by Killer_bluebird; 08-17-2006 at 09:39 AM.

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    oh, you have the DA's ...i only have the SA's

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    i bought my car lowered and raised it back up 2 inches and still want to go up to sock ride. i live in Texas and our roads suck. i spent $1300 on my new suspension and i hate it.

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    Bought the Eibach Pro-Kit and love it. Some clearance issues sometimes, but not for the most part and I have LT headers with ORY. Def worth it once you see how it looks. Drops it ON THE GROUND.

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    i wouldn't go DMS... too progressive... hard to dialin shocks for proper damping.. and ride becomes quite harsh on not so nice roads.

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    I ordered my 2002 SS with the Bilstein suspension package from SLP.... It was raise in the front higher than in the back. Well I put a serious system in my car..2 12's ..box..2 amps..extra battery.. this really dropped the backend

    People high beamed me all of the time thinking I had my highs on when it was because the back end squatted so much and the front was up so high that my lights shot straight into everybodys windows or rearviews..

    I bought Eibachs Sportline .. only put them in the front and left the bilstein springs in the back.... it evened it out especially after the Eibachs settled.. but the ride sucks .. you hit a bump and you feel it go from your ass all the way up your spine into your teeth haha .. but it hangs a curve at 80-90 like you wouldnt believe

    all in all .. handling I love it .. appearance wise .. looks perfect .. aggressive stance....ridewise.. sucks donkey cock
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    I think im going with the vogtland springs. 1.2" drop. Anyone with any experience with them?
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    I was considering those at one point but the rear springs are a little on the stiff side. Here are their rates:
    Front rates are 440-542#
    Rear rates are 183-228#

    The front rates are less variable than my DMS but I'm really just waiting for Strano's springs to come out. They are linear springs in the front but won't drop the car as much as the G2. The rears are variable but very little. The specs are under wraps for the moment but will compare well to the G2, Lt1 Pro kits and Hotchkis springs. Unfortunately there has been no updates on this so they may not come until fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_bluebird View Post
    I was considering those at one point but the rear springs are a little on the stiff side. Here are their rates:
    Front rates are 440-542#
    Rear rates are 183-228#
    Are they more of a road race spring? I just want a good spring with the occasional drag time. I know the pro-kits sag over time because I see it in my eclipse. Would a good set of rear shocks help with the spring rate?

    Thanks

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    They will not work well if you are interested in Drag Racing as the stiffer springs in the rear will prevent the weight to be tranfered to the rear effectively. Hotchkis or DMS will work better if you want to stay clear of the eibachs and like to do some drag racing.

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    anyone runnning bmr springs? there rates loook nice and stiff and an inch drop would be enough for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by ErikElvis View Post
    Are they more of a road race spring? I just want a good spring with the occasional drag time. I know the pro-kits sag over time because I see it in my eclipse. Would a good set of rear shocks help with the spring rate?

    Thanks
    way more than what you'd want.
    you should chose springs based on spring rates (ie behaviour) and not the drop.
    the drop you get is a compromise for the spring rate you want... you can get lucky and have a good one... most springs lower around 1-1.5 anyways.
    if you want to control both spring rate and drop, coil-overs is the way.
    You'll regret chosing the springs based on the drop and not the rate.

    fwiw, i use 500/150 spring rates and it's pretty limit for street purposes... and that's because they aren't progressive and damping is dialed in good.
    add progressiveness or bad dial-in... you'll hate the springs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_bluebird View Post
    They will not work well if you are interested in Drag Racing as the stiffer springs in the rear will prevent the weight to be tranfered to the rear effectively. Hotchkis or DMS will work better if you want to stay clear of the eibachs and like to do some drag racing.
    Actually, weight transfer occurs the same, but in a different fashion... with way less movement... and more difficult to get it smoothly... but still is there.

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