Adjustable Panhard Bar

**2001camaroSS** · 11-16-2010, 04:56 PM

Well since I'm lowered with the Eibach Prokit it's probably time to think about getting a adj. panhard bar. What should I get? I don't know much about these things so any input helps. Thanks guys

**shady milkman** · 11-16-2010, 05:28 PM

umi single adj. on car. and use the roto joints

**pajeff02** · 11-16-2010, 05:44 PM

^^ Agree.

**tatertot91** · 11-16-2010, 06:32 PM

Haven't tries the roto joints
I have polys and like them but have heard great things about the roto joints
Dont get the spherical rod ends, they're noisy as hell

**2001camaroSS** · 11-16-2010, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

umi single adj. on car. and use the roto joints

PM sent

**tatertot91** · 11-16-2010, 08:11 PM

Check KY speed
UMI makes great stuff

**2001camaroSS** · 11-16-2010, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by tatertot91

Check KY speed
UMI makes great stuff

I didnt realize UMI was a sponsor here. http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...roducts_id=357 is this what i need?

**tatertot91** · 11-16-2010, 08:28 PM

Yes they are but you can get the UMI stuff from KY Speed

**tatertot91** · 11-16-2010, 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by 2001camaroSS

I didnt realize UMI was a sponsor here. http://www.umiperformance.com/catalo...roducts_id=357 is this what i need?

Exactly what you want

**2001camaroSS** · 11-16-2010, 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by tatertot91

Exactly what you want

any advantages of ordering through either one?

**Blackbird WS6** · 11-16-2010, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by tatertot91

Yes they are but you can get the UMI stuff from KY Speed

why?

**tatertot91** · 11-16-2010, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by 2001camaroSS

any advantages of ordering through either one?

Originally Posted by Blackbird-WS6

why?

Pm mark at kyspeed on this site and he could probably get you a better deal
Worth asking

**2001camaroSS** · 11-16-2010, 09:52 PM

how in need is a new torque arm since the car is lowered and is there anything else i need? i am really pissed at myself for buying the prokit instead of stranos

Originally Posted by tatertot91

Pm mark at kyspeed on this site and he could probably get you a better deal
Worth asking

i will do that. thanks

**pajeff02** · 11-17-2010, 03:26 AM

Getting the torque arm off the back of the transmission is a good thing. For the strip you would want to consider a tunnel mount. However, it tends to be a bit noisier than other setups and in extreme braking wheel hop is possible. Check out the other styles on UMI's website. Just be sure it is going to be compatible with your current (and possibly future) exhaust systems.

**35th-ANV-SS** · 11-17-2010, 05:44 AM

If your car is lowered, then your TA pinion angle is probably off. Lowering the car changes the suspension geometry.

You "should" get an adjustable TA and also relocation brackets for your lower control arms if you don't have them already. Your instant center needs to be brought back to the correct position.

Also, with a lowered car now, that PHB is probably not going to be parallel to the ground when your suspension is loaded. You want the PHB to be as parallel to the ground as possible for the way that it works. If you see yours isn't because of how much you're dropped, you might also want to look into the relocation kit for it.

It's never easy or cheap

**pajeff02** · 11-17-2010, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by 35th-ANV-SS

It's never easy or cheap

**shady milkman** · 11-17-2010, 08:50 AM

Originally Posted by 2001camaroSS

how in need is a new torque arm since the car is lowered and is there anything else i need? i am really pissed at myself for buying the prokit instead of stranos

i will do that. thanks

replied btw.

ok well now that you are lowered..you need or should..depending on who you talk to...replace all non adjustable rear suspension pieces. so the list goes (using umi stuff..which i strongly suggest)

adjustable lower control arms with roto joints
here
lower control arm relocation bracket
here
adj. panhard bar ON CAR ADJUSTABLE!!!!! with rotojoints
here
adj. torque arm (this requires some thought tho..you need to figure out what you want from the car...if you are into hpe and or autox get the long arm torque arm with the relocation bracket. if you are heavy into drag racing then the short arm kit is your cup of tea...if you are a weekend warrior with a little of both..it is up to you on your tolerance of road noise and vibration)

a optional buy is the panhard relocation bracket ..this one is really up to you..a added benefit is the ability to run larger exhaust pipe out the back with the relo bracket
here

**2001camaroSS** · 11-17-2010, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

replied btw.

ok well now that you are lowered..you need or should..depending on who you talk to...replace all non adjustable rear suspension pieces. so the list goes (using umi stuff..which i strongly suggest)

adjustable lower control arms with roto joints
here
lower control arm relocation bracket
here
adj. panhard bar ON CAR ADJUSTABLE!!!!! with rotojoints
here
adj. torque arm (this requires some thought tho..you need to figure out what you want from the car...if you are into hpe and or autox get the long arm torque arm with the relocation bracket. if you are heavy into drag racing then the short arm kit is your cup of tea...if you are a weekend warrior with a little of both..it is up to you on your tolerance of road noise and vibration)

a optional buy is the panhard relocation bracket ..this one is really up to you..a added benefit is the ability to run larger exhaust pipe out the back with the relo bracket
here

damn. my car is just a cruiser and strictly that. don't go to the track, no autox, just drive the car on nice days with spirited driving. so all of this is needed to center the car back to where its supposed to be.

**shady milkman** · 11-17-2010, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by 2001camaroSS

damn. my car is just a cruiser and strictly that. don't go to the track, no autox, just drive the car on nice days with spirited driving. so all of this is needed to center the car back to where its supposed to be.

well remember when you lower..you not only change its horizontal orientation but also its longitudinal and depth also...

with what you just put as a street cruiser..nvh is a big concern. so stay with the long arm. and the relocation if you want..but as you wont be launching it is up to you...id still watch that tailshaft of yours tho if you dont relocate.

a adj panhard is still needed and at least the lca relocation bracket also.

i DD my car and suspension wise it is completely fine..my exhaust on the other hand hangs low and is resting on my k member which drives me crazy.

but my car is incredibly fun to drive..especially around curves and even launching

**2001camaroSS** · 11-17-2010, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

well remember when you lower..you not only change its horizontal orientation but also its longitudinal and depth also...

with what you just put as a street cruiser..nvh is a big concern. so stay with the long arm. and the relocation if you want..but as you wont be launching it is up to you...id still watch that tailshaft of yours tho if you dont relocate.

a adj panhard is still needed and at least the lca relocation bracket also.

i DD my car and suspension wise it is completely fine..my exhaust on the other hand hangs low and is resting on my k member which drives me crazy.

but my car is incredibly fun to drive..especially around curves and even launching

so should i start with these? or should i get the adj. CAs as well?