Finally happened

**flipsutter** · 07-10-2009, 07:17 AM

I decided to drive the TA to work since it was nice outside. Nothing went wrong on the way to work but when I was leaving it finally decided to go.

I started her up and let out the clutch because I had to gather my papers and I noticed the pedal wouldn't come all the way up. Huh I thought. I pushed the clutch in and put her in reverse and slowly release it. The next thing I know she jerks backwards. I thought to my self, "This isn't good." With the backward motion I had enough room to put her in first and get ready for the drive home. I only live .8 of a mile from the house so it isn't like I had a long trip ahead of me. I started to get on the main street and with the clutch all the way in it felt like it was grabbing and it then the engine died. I noticed while the car was running it wouldn't come out of 1st. After it died it released and I could pull it out of first gear. I worked her home. Short trip. The whole way I had to pump the clutch to get enough pedal to allow me to take off at a light or stop sign.

Well I have an LS7 Clutch, Flywheel, and Pressure Plate, Slave, Pilot and Throw-out bearing waiting to be put in.

Now I wonder if I shouldn't just order a 01-02 Master while I'm at it.

**blackcar** · 07-10-2009, 07:22 AM

sounds like what mine was doing when the master went out.

**SOCAL WS6** · 07-10-2009, 07:59 AM

I just put a new clutch kit in mine and I decided to go with the new slave and master as well. I think it's a wise move..

**Dr.Crash** · 07-10-2009, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by flipsutter

I decided to drive the TA to work since it was nice outside. Nothing went wrong on the way to work but when I was leaving it finally decided to go.

I started her up and let out the clutch because I had to gather my papers and I noticed the pedal wouldn't come all the way up. Huh I thought. I pushed the clutch in and put her in reverse and slowly release it. The next thing I know she jerks backwards. I thought to my self, "This isn't good." With the backward motion I had enough room to put her in first and get ready for the drive home. I only live .8 of a mile from the house so it isn't like I had a long trip ahead of me. I started to get on the main street and with the clutch all the way in it felt like it was grabbing and it then the engine died. I noticed while the car was running it wouldn't come out of 1st. After it died it released and I could pull it out of first gear. I worked her home. Short trip. The whole way I had to pump the clutch to get enough pedal to allow me to take off at a light or stop sign.

Well I have an LS7 Clutch, Flywheel, and Pressure Plate, Slave, Pilot and Throw-out bearing waiting to be put in.

Now I wonder if I shouldn't just order a 01-02 Master while I'm at it.

yes do it now so its out of the way. they arent to much and are easy to install. Plus then you will only have to bleed it once.

its well worth it

**flipsutter** · 07-10-2009, 10:02 AM

Do you think its worth getting an adjustable master or just sticking with one from the 01-02?

**Y2KArcticSS** · 07-10-2009, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by flipsutter

Do you think its worth getting an adjustable master or just sticking with one from the 01-02?

I think the 01-02's are just fine, I couldn't justify spending more money on something so damn hard to get to in the first place, much less adjust it....

**Dr.Crash** · 07-10-2009, 10:40 AM

I have a tick adjustable that was an esy install. its up to you what you want

**Y2KArcticSS** · 07-10-2009, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by Dr.Crash

I have a tick adjustable that was an esy install. its up to you what you want

Got a question Crash... what's the point of having an adjustable master? I really don't know

What's so adjustable about it?

Oh, and hi

**flipsutter** · 07-10-2009, 10:47 AM

Thanks. I'll just pick up the master for an 01-02 off of gmpartsdirect.

**Dr.Crash** · 07-10-2009, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by Y2KArcticSS

Got a question Crash... what's the point of having an adjustable master? I really don't know

What's so adjustable about it?

Oh, and hi

The adjustment allows you to "adjust" where on the pedal the clutch is fully released. With the stock master cyl in my car, the clutch wouldnt be fully released untill just about the top of the pedal. So the process of it being released was for lack of a better term longer. Now with the adjustable. where half-way on your pedal would be, mine is fully released. this allows me to plant my heal on the floor an and pivit just my ankle to engauge/disengauge the clutch. The adjustment allows you to decide how far off of the flywheel the clutch comes. So less movement = faster shifts...... in therory Hope that some what makes sence.

Oh and hello

**Y2KArcticSS** · 07-10-2009, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Dr.Crash

The adjustment allows you to "adjust" where on the pedal the clutch is fully released. With the stock master cyl in my car, the clutch wouldnt be fully released untill just about the top of the pedal. So the process of it being released was for lack of a better term longer. Now with the adjustable. where half-way on your pedal would be, mine is fully released. this allows me to plant my heal on the floor an and pivit just my ankle to engauge/disengauge the clutch. The adjustment allows you to decide how far off of the flywheel the clutch comes. Hope that some what makes sence.

Oh and hello

Makes perfect sense, but it would take me for - freaking - EVER to get used to that

Especially as much as I drive my car everyday...though it might make the stop and go easier on my legs

maybe next time...I've put almost 50k on the 'new' setup, so who knows when I'll have to replace it again.

**Dr.Crash** · 07-10-2009, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Y2KArcticSS

Makes perfect sense, but it would take me for - freaking - EVER to get used to that

Especially as much as I drive my car everyday...though it might make the stop and go easier on my legs

maybe next time...I've put almost 50k on the 'new' setup, so who knows when I'll have to replace it again.

It took me about twice of almost stalling it to get used to it. my DD is down so i've been driving the beast everyday

Well when ya do let me know and i'll drive out and help ya

**flipsutter** · 07-16-2009, 12:18 PM

Well I just ran into an issue.

I received my master today but it has a huge yellow sticker on it that says "For V6 Only."....... Umm.

Part Number # 12565144
Says on GMPartsdirect that
For the Pontiac Firebird this.

"Master cylinder, all models, 5.7l"

So its what I ordered.

Does any one know if the V6 will fit the V8???

**Y2KArcticSS** · 07-16-2009, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by flipsutter

Well I just ran into an issue.

I received my master today but it has a huge yellow sticker on it that says "For V6 Only."....... Umm.

Part Number # 12565144
Says on GMPartsdirect that
For the Pontiac Firebird this.

"Master cylinder, all models, 5.7l"

So its what I ordered.

Does any one know if the V6 will fit the V8???

12570277 <<<<<Try this

**flipsutter** · 07-16-2009, 12:37 PM

O son of a B!!!!.... I guess I'm going to have to call GMparts and ask for an exchange.

**Y2KArcticSS** · 07-16-2009, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by flipsutter

O son of a B!!!!.... I guess I'm going to have to call GMparts and ask for an exchange.

**flipsutter** · 07-16-2009, 12:45 PM

Thanks.

They better not charge me for any thing. It says on there website 5.7l all models...

And man this was the last part I needed to fix my car.. ugg.

I can't return the product. It is considered a "special-order item."....

I guess I might be posting about selling this part

**Y2KArcticSS** · 07-16-2009, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by flipsutter

Thanks.

They better not charge me for any thing. It says on there website 5.7l all models...

And man this was the last part I needed to fix my car.. ugg.

I can't return the product. It is considered a "special-order item."....

I guess I might be posting about selling this part

When I looked up your part number on GMPartsDirect it said V6 only.....

**flipsutter** · 07-16-2009, 02:48 PM

I just followed what it said on there. O wells.

I'm going to replace everything except that for now and see what happens.

Does any one have a walk through on removing the center console? I gotta get this done tonight before I have it sent to my brother in laws house.

I went to gmpartsdirect.com and this is what I came up with.

12565144 $283.25 $147.25
Clutch - Hydraulic system - Master cylinder
Master cylinder, all models, 5.7l 2001 - 2002