Shift Kit Vs. Torque converter

**SKULLZ** · 02-09-2006, 03:29 PM

I have some "Fun money" and as wondering what would wake my car up more, a shift kit or a higher torque converter?? I would probably go with a 2800-3000 TQ. Any advice??

***Ed Blown Vert*** · 02-09-2006, 03:34 PM

You should do both. But a TC will do more.

**SteveC** · 02-09-2006, 04:28 PM

What Ed said, and go no lower than a 3200 stall.

SteveC

**SKULLZ** · 02-09-2006, 05:56 PM

I have seen a lot of people rooting for a 3000 stall converter but the guys at the transmission shop suggested a 2500 or even a 2800 stall,

they thought that a 3000 TQ would be too much for a DD...basically I trust both sources and I am still confused

any advice??

**redline** · 02-09-2006, 06:15 PM

go with the tci 3500 stall anymore and you wont like to drive it around town.it gets you out of the hole quick.(real quick)

**redline** · 02-09-2006, 06:19 PM

PS guys at tranny shop dont know shit.

**SKULLZ** · 02-09-2006, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by redline

PS guys at tranny shop dont know shit.

maybe too much tranny fluid?? Thanks, think I'll go with a 3000 stall and a shift kit.

**SteveC** · 02-10-2006, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by SKULLZ

I have seen a lot of people rooting for a 3000 stall converter but the guys at the transmission shop suggested a 2500 or even a 2800 stall,

they thought that a 3000 TQ would be too much for a DD...basically I trust both sources and I am still confused

any advice??

I have a 3000 stall currently coupled to 3.73's in my 01 Z28, and it is VERY streetable, so much so, that if I had to do all over again, I would go to a 3200 stall.

Alot of times transmission shops have avenues into re stalled stock converters that are done locally, that's why they are telling you 2500 to 2800, which is a total waste of time and money to install, IMHO get the 3200 or 3500 and be done with it.

SteveC

**Corona-Extra** · 02-10-2006, 11:41 AM

I don’t have an auto, but I was always told if you go with one, you pretty much have to go with the other too and best at the same time….

**SKULLZ** · 02-10-2006, 11:53 AM

Hell yes!!! 3000 TQ here i come!!

***Ed Blown Vert*** · 02-10-2006, 01:52 PM

Whatever TC you chose go one higher.

I started with a Vig 2800, now I run a Vig 3200 and I still want more.

**Sarge** · 02-10-2006, 02:09 PM

Stall and a trannie cooler w/guage.....would be my first shot...

**SKULLZ** · 02-10-2006, 02:10 PM

with a 3000 TQ at what RPM will my car start to actually move?? Not necessarily for racing but, lets say Im at a stop light in moderate traffic, will my engine raise to 3000 rpm before it moves?

***Ed Blown Vert*** · 02-10-2006, 06:26 PM

Maybe a few hundred more than now. A few weeks driving it, you won't even know its there. But you will want more.

**SKULLZ** · 02-10-2006, 07:19 PM

I think the choice is clear thanks all!!!

**SteveC** · 02-11-2006, 04:31 AM

Listen to Ed, whatever you want to get, go one higher, very sound advice.

SteveC

**nhraformula** · 02-11-2006, 09:53 PM

a shift kit wont do shit for lowering e.t
i have a tci3000 converter and it drives damm near like a stock trans does.
anything under 3k is a waste. actually a 3500 t/c is what i should of got.

FireFox05 · 02-15-2006, 10:15 AM

Can I hijack this thread and ask what a 3500K stall would do to MPG?

**SKULLZ** · 02-15-2006, 10:57 AM

I really dont think it would change that much or at all

**Transam388** · 02-15-2006, 01:03 PM

One thing that was mentioned earlier is to make sure and get a Trans cooler when you do this. As others have also stated, go with like a 3200 but for a DD IMHO would not go past that. You will lose MPG since your motor spins up a little more before your car moves. Nothing horendous but just FYI. If you are also going to have a TC put in you may as well also do the shift kit as combined it will help. You might want to also check which TC manufacturer it would come from. Apparently some manufacturers over state the stall speed and some understate, so you may have one say it is a 3000 and it is really closer to 2800 or vice versa. What is cool about the Vig convertors is they allow you a one time restall to change speed for free but obvisouly you have to take it out and send it back!