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10-06-2014, 11:10 AM #1
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TSP ss ory questions
As I'm installing the tsp header/ory setup on my car I noticed a couple things....1st is the outlet of the y fits pretty loose in my dynomax catback, and I don't think a clamp is gonna seal it, should I take it to a muffler shop and have it expanded for a better seal or is there another way to fix this...welding? Also the y came with 6 butt style band clamps, yet it looks like I need all lap joint style? Were these the clamps I was supposed to get with this? Anyone else get these?
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10-06-2014, 12:20 PM #2
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I would start by measuring the internal and outer diameter of both to see if they are the right size to see how big the difference is and to ensure for some reason there wasn't a fluke and the TSP y-pipe isn't bugger than it should be.
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10-06-2014, 12:42 PM #3
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Getting ready to go to sleep now since I have to work tonight but will measure first thing in the morning and post the results but if I was to guess, I'd say the tsp is like 2.5" and the dynomax is 3" like I said just a guess but the dynomax pipe fit the stock y perfectly and I believe stock intermediates are 2.75" and even with the pipe being kinda bent from the cheap ubolt style clamp it still is a real loose fit. Might have to call tsp about it to see if it was supposed to be like this and also ask them about the clamps also.
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10-06-2014, 12:56 PM #4
Dan....
When i had my TSP headers arrive they had a bunch of
decent quality Accuseal band clamps supplied with them
and they all drew up a treat around the pipework.
I was mating the tail end of the Kooks ORY to the leading
end of a Magnaflow I pipe and it slid right up nice and tight.
Enlarging the end of the pipe that is too small would be a
good solution i reckon!?
Trev
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10-06-2014, 03:20 PM #5
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I had to modify the tsp y-pipe to fit my magnaflow cat back when I had it. But mine was too long and had to cut it down to fit correctly.
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10-07-2014, 05:41 AM #6
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Well, getting ready to out and start on the drivers side header I hope luck is with me and it's not too bad, then I'll mess with the ory ans see what I have to do with it, guess I did get the right band clamps then...was a little worried when I first saw them. Wish me luck! I think I'm gonna need it
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10-07-2014, 10:57 AM #7
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WOW! That was rough but I did get the drivers side installed! Removing the steering linkage, oil filter/plug, lifted the motor up and it still wouldn't go up in there...looked like a acre of space too but I guess trying to shove 1 7/8 pipes up there does take some work. Had to clearance the k-member like usual but even had to notch it again further forward then the header went right in, even after I bolted the engine back down. Tomorrow I'll mess with the y and see if it's gonna be easy on me.....although with my luck, I doubt it
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10-07-2014, 12:14 PM #8
Hey Dan....
Glad you managed to get the drivers side in!
Once i was offering the correct header into place...
it was a bit of a simple affair. I have read that people have had to
remove the steering linkage. I never needed to do that but i would
have had issues with the K member if i had not have taken lumps
out for the darned '10 Camaro headers which TSP first sent me!!
I hope the Y goes well but i have to say i would install both headers
first and then you will have the final positions for accurate positioning
of the Y. You'll have three given points which the Y will have to mate to
with no real options of altering ( apart from a tweak on the I pipe maybe)
Look forward to hearing of more success!
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10-07-2014, 12:40 PM #9
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10-07-2014, 11:42 PM #10
Dan...
I assume you mean the layered gaskets which look as though they are going to fall
to pieces?!
I would say you ought to. I have yet to get this on mine but it has done few miles since
i put the headers and Y in.
I DO haver the coils back in but not a huge deal to fiddle .
Trev
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10-08-2014, 05:24 AM #11
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10-08-2014, 08:38 AM #12
We are almost like for like Dan...
I have the Kooks Y but the same headers.
My last TA had long tubes into Magnaflow
cats and then a Magnaflow bullet.
It sounded pretty good but i did always
have to endure a rasp at about 1800 revs.
Hope you don't!!
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10-09-2014, 09:10 AM #13
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All done except 02 extensions which will be here today, the only thing is I have to have the end y on the ory has to be welded to the intermediate pipe, took it to a muffler shop and he tried to expand it and it wouldn't budge! He said it was some tough ass metal so he's gonna weld the one spot. Hopefully no rasp
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