headers

**2000dreambird** · 07-19-2009, 08:42 PM

anyone have a opinon on headers i'm thinking Full-Length and a new y-pipe cause the stock one is flat on one side.why would i wanna go long or short i have no clue on this?

**BlackSS1** · 07-20-2009, 06:53 AM

Definately go long, or save your money. Shorties are too much work and cost for too little gain.

**shady milkman** · 07-20-2009, 09:30 AM

long tubes will give you better gains ..however they change the positioning of the cats..which in many states is illegal...shorties do not move the cats and look better then the stock manifolds

**allbaugh_04** · 07-20-2009, 11:06 AM

Check your laws about removing cats. If you can then just get long tube headers and an off road y pipe if you wish or x pipe

**JoshieDoom** · 07-20-2009, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by allbaugh_04

Check your laws about removing cats. If you can then just get long tube headers and an off road y pipe if you wish or x pipe

Removing cats are illegal in ALL states.

Inspection/Emissions is all you have to worry about

**allbaugh_04** · 07-20-2009, 11:59 AM

lol, ok then check if they do emissions testing or do inspections for those things

**2000dreambird** · 07-20-2009, 04:26 PM

Ok so long tube it is any recomended brand not tryin to break my pocket

**allbaugh_04** · 07-20-2009, 05:14 PM

Ceramic coated Pacesseters are what you might want on a budget. They are pretty cheap and pick up a nice gain of power. Or spend a little more and pick up some used QTP's or Kook's. American Racing might make a stainless steel header if I remember right. They will last quite a while and put out a couple more HP than the Pacesseters.

**2000dreambird** · 07-20-2009, 11:19 PM

Sweet I'll check them out

**T/A Addicted** · 07-21-2009, 10:39 AM

Do you lose any ground clearance with long tube headers is so how much?

**shady milkman** · 07-21-2009, 11:33 AM

you do a little..but the y pipe 99% of the time is where you really loose clearance

**2000dreambird** · 07-21-2009, 12:14 PM

what is diff between tuned and not tuned headers?

**shady milkman** · 07-21-2009, 12:20 PM

are you refering to tuned lengthed headers or pcm tuning ?

**2000dreambird** · 07-21-2009, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

are you refering to tuned lengthed headers or pcm tuning ?

tuned lenghth

**T/A Addicted** · 07-21-2009, 04:01 PM

I believe (someone correct me if Im wrong) tuned length give you power on the lower RPM range 2500-3600 while long tube the power comes at higher RPM range 4500-6000.

**shady milkman** · 07-22-2009, 05:37 AM

equal lengthed headers will give you a minimal gain across the entire band...

**2000dreambird** · 07-22-2009, 05:52 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

equal lengthed headers will give you a minimal gain across the entire band...

so what are you saying ?
shorty's are minimal gain and tuned or long tube are more power across the board ?

**shady milkman** · 07-22-2009, 05:56 AM

long tubes will give you leaps and bounds more power then shorties.

**Spaz** · 07-22-2009, 05:56 AM

Originally Posted by 2000dreambird

so what are you saying ?
shorty's are minimal gain and tuned or long tube are more power across the board ?

no... he meant each pipe that comes from an exhaust chamber being an equal length before it merges at the collector will give a minimum gain... LT headers will provide better gains than shorties...