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06-02-2009, 09:46 AM #1
sway bar size help
Hey guys I was wondering if anyone knows the stock size of the c5 sway bars, and then what size the zo6 bars are. I'm lookin to upgrade and people keep tellin me to go with the zo6 instead of hotchkis
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06-02-2009, 10:10 AM #2
scroll down, more info than you'll want.
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-g...ngths-etc.html04 C5 A4 Torch Red - sold
2009 CTS4 Ice Black - sold
2013 1500 Silverado Z71 - sold
02 Z/28 M6 Onyx Black All Options - Sold
2014 Caddy CTS4 - DD
2016 Silverado 2500HD
2020 Caddy XT6
2020 2SS Vert
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06-02-2009, 10:59 AM #3
lol it doesnt say what the stock size is in mm tho.
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06-02-2009, 09:40 PM #4
incorrect, here this will help
C5 Suspension
Brake Rotor Dimensions-front
3 cm, 2 mm --- rotor thickness --- Source
7 cm --- center hole diameter --- Source
7 cm --- lug to lug spacing --- Source
11 cm --- lug diameter...don't know how to say from two lugs across rotor to single lug. Imagine an acute triangle if dots were connected --- Source
3 cm, 8 mm --- inside face of hub to rotor surface --- Source
19 cm --- inner hub diameter --- Source
21 cm, 7 mm --- out hub diameter --- Source
32 cm, 5 mm --- rotor diameter --- Source
Brake Rotor Dimensions-rear -- dimensions that are same as front are not repeated
2 cm, 6 mm --- rotor thickness --- Source
4 cm, 2 mm --- inside face of hub to rotor surface --- Source
20 cm, 2 mm --- out hub diameter --- Source
30 cm, 5 mm --- rotor diameter --- Source
Caliper Pistons
1-9/16" dia x 2 pistons per caliper = 3.835 sq inches --- Front Pistons --- Source
1-3/4" dia x 1 piston per caliper = 2.405 sq inches --- Rear Piston --- Source
Swaybars
23mm, front; 19.1mm, rear --- FE1/Base --- Source
25.4mm, front; 21.7mm, rear --- FE3/Z51 97-99 --- Source
28.6mm, front; 23.6mm, rear --- FE3/Z51 00-04 --- Source
30.0mm, front; 23.6mm, rear --- FE4/Z06 --- Source
31.75mm, front; 25.4mm, rear --- Hotchkis --- Source
38.4mm, front; 27.5mm, rear --- GM T1 --- Source
Spring Rates
439.66 lb/in, front; 576.70 lb/in, rear (manual trans); 588.12 lb/in, rear (auto trans) --- FE-1/Base --- Source
440 lb/in, front; 577 lb/in, rear --- FE-1/Base --- Source
457 lb/in, front; 577 lb/in, rear --- MSRC --- Source
525 lb/in, front --- FE-3/Z51 --- Source
660 lb/in, front --- FE-3/Z51 --- Source
327 lb/in, rear --- FE-3/Z51 --- Source
633 lb/in, rear --- FE-3/Z51 --- Source
634 lb/in, rear --- FE-3/Z51 --- Source
525.31 lb/in, front; 633.80 lb/in, rear (manual trans); 645.22 lb/in, rear (auto trans) --- FE-3/Z51 --- Source
525 lb/in, front; 634 lb/in, rear --- FE-3/Z51 --- Source
620 lb/in, rear --- FE-4/Z06 --- Source
650 lb/in, front; 680 lb/in, rear --- FE-4/Z06 --- Source
525 lb/in, front; 714 lb/in, rear --- FE-4/Z06 --- Source
650 lb/in, front; 800 lb/in, rear --- T1 --- Source
1,000 lb/in, front; 680 lb/in, rear --- Danny Popp's setup --- Source
77 N/mm --- FE1 & F45 front suspension spring rate --- SAE SP-1282
1.15 Hz --- FE1 & F45 front suspension ride frequency --- SAE SP-1282
103 N/mm --- FE1 & F45 rear suspension spring rate --- SAE SP-1282
1.36 Hz --- FE1 & F45 rear suspension ride frequency --- SAE SP-1282
1.18 --- FE1 & F45 Ride frequency ratio --- SAE SP-1282
93 N/mm --- FE3 front suspension spring rate --- SAE SP-1282
1.20 Hz --- FE3 front suspension ride frequency --- SAE SP-1282
113 N/mm --- FE3 rear suspension spring rate --- SAE SP-1282
1.45 Hz --- FE3 rear suspension ride frequency --- SAE SP-1282
1.21 --- FE3 Ride frequency ratio --- SAE SP-1282
Misc Suspension
36mm --- FE-1/Base shock absorber piston --- SAE SP-1282
45mm --- FE-3/Z51 shock absorber piston --- SAE SP-1282
aluminum --- front upper control arm bushing bar pin material --- SAE SP-1282
aluminum --- rear uppper control arm bushing inner metals --- SAE SP-1282
glass reinforced resin --- early stabilizer end links --- SAE SP-1282
AA6061-T6 (forged) --- front upper control arm material --- SAE SP-1282
A356-T6 (hybrid cast preform-forging) --- front lower control arm material --- SAE SP-1282
A356-T6 (hybrid cast preform-forging) --- rear upper control arm material --- SAE SP-1282
A356-T6 (hybrid cast preform-forging) --- rear lower control arm material --- SAE SP-1282
A356-T6 (hybrid cast preform-forging) --- knuckles (all are from the same casting) --- SAE SP-1282
Control Arm Notes
Front lower, and upper/lower control arms are an L-shape variation. The forward leg of the control arm is set near to wheel center. The forward leg of the lower control arms is fitted with a "handling" bushing; the rear leg is fitted with a "ride" bushing. The "ride" bushing absorbs the brunt of road deflections while the "handling" bushing absorbs the brunt of the cornering forces. The "handling" bushing is 3-6 times stiffer than the "ride" bushing.
C5 Alignment
6.5° --- front caster angle --- SAE SP-1282
0.2° --- rear caster angle --- SAE SP-1282
36mm --- front caster trail --- SAE SP-1282
63mm --- front spindle length --- SAE SP-1282
50.7mm --- rear spindle length --- SAE SP-1282
8.8° --- front kingpin angle --- SAE SP-1282
9.2° --- rear kingpin angle (inclination) --- SAE SP-1282
10mm --- front scrub radius --- SAE SP-1282
1.0mm --- rear scrub radius --- SAE SP-1282
1.34:1 --- front shock lever arm ratio --- SAE SP-1282
1.43:1 --- rear shock lever arm ratio --- SAE SP-1282
5.2 --- rear side-view swing arm angle --- SAE SP-1282
C4 Alignment
5.9° --- front caster angle --- SAE SP-1282
1.2° --- rear caster angle --- SAE SP-1282
45mm --- front caster trail --- SAE SP-1282
93mm --- front spindle length --- SAE SP-1282
123.0mm --- rear spindle length --- SAE SP-1282
16° --- front kingpin angle --- SAE SP-1282
-7.1° --- rear kingpin angle (inclination) --- SAE SP-1282
162.3mm --- rear scrub radius --- SAE SP-1282
7.8 --- rear side-view swing arm angle --- SAE SP-1282
Chassis
720 N-mm/deg (>10X roll couple distribution) --- Static stiffness --- SAE SP-1282
23 Hz (separation from suspension tramp mode) --- Structural 1st torsional mode --- SAE SP-1282
16 Hz --- Suspension tramp frequency --- SAE SP-1282
21 Hz (separation from suspension hop mode) --- Structural 1st bending mode --- SAE SP-1282
15 Hz --- Suspension hop frequency --- SAE SP-1282
20 dB separation from mount --- Input mobility --- SAE SP-1282
Chassis Notes
The cored composite floorboards increased 1st structural torsion mode by 0.1-0.2 Hz. The tunnel closeout (aka tunnel plate) increased 1st structure torsion mode by ~2 Hz. It makes sense that stronger tunnel plates stiffen the chassis. The C6 Z06 has carbon fiber floorboards to reduce weight, but possibly stiffen the chassis as well. The boards behind the seats often flex and pop on convertibles, and I believe stiffer boards would further increase chassis stiffness.
OEM Wheel specs
8.5"x17", front; 9.5"x18", rear --- 97-99 Wagon wheels --- Source
8.5"x17", offset=58mm, front; 9.5"x18", offset=65mm, rear --- 00-04 Thin/Thick 5-spoke wheels --- Source, Source
9.5"x17", front; 10.5"x18", rear --- 01-04 Z06 forged or cast wheels --- Source
17"x11", offset=50mm, rear --- AFS GS --- Source, Source=http://forums.corvetteforum.com/showthread.php?t=448185]Source[/url]
OEM Tire specs
P245/45ZR17, front; P275/40ZR18, rear --- Goodyear Eagle F1 GS --- SAE SP-1282
Alignment
Autocross
CAMBER: -2.5° front, -1.5° rear; CASTER: max; TOE: -1/8" toe-out, front; 1/8" toe-in, rear --- Source
C5 Service Manual Alignment --- Source
Front Individual Toe +0.04 degree
Front Sum Toe +0.08 degree
Front Individual Caster +6.9 degree
Front Cross Caster within 0.50 degree
Front Individual Camber -0.20 degree
Front Cross Camber within 0.50 degree
Rear Individual Toe -0.01 degree
Rear Sum Toe -0.02 degree
Rear Individual Camber -0.18 degree
Rear Cross Camber within 0.50 degree
Z06 Service Manual Alignment --- Source
LEFT & RIGHT FRONT:
Camber: Specified Range: -1.2 to -0.2 Optimal: -0.7
Caster: Specified Range: 6.4 to 7.4 Optimal 6.9
Toe: Specified Range: 0.15 to 0.25 Optimal 0.20
FRONT
Cross Camber: Specified Range: -0.5 to 0.5 Optimal: 0.0
Cross Caster: Specified Range: -0.5 to 0.5 Optimal: 0.0
Total Toe: Specified Range: 0.30 to 0.50 Optimal: 0.40
LEFT & RIGHT REAR
Camber: Specified Range: -1.2 to -0.2 Optimal: -0.7
Toe: Specified Range: -0.06 to 0.05 Optimal: -0.005
REAR
Total Toe: Specified Range: -0.11 to 0.09 Optimal: -0.01
Thrust Angle: Specified Range: -0.10 to 0.10 Optimal: 0.00
Z06 (missing in '01) Service Manual Alignment - as written by Hib Halverson, but same as above --- Source
Front Individual Toe: +0.04 degree +/- 0.10 degree
Front Sum Toe : +0.08 degree +/- 0.20 degree
Front Individual Caster: +6.9 degree +/- 0.50 degree
Front Cross Caster: within +/- 0.25 degree
Front Individual Camber: -0.70 degree +/-0.50 degree
Front Cross Camber: within +/-0.25 degree
Rear Individual Toe: -0.01 degree +/- 0.10 degree
Rear Sum Toe: -0.02 degree +/- 0.20 degree
Rear Individual Camber: -0.68 degree +/- 0.50 degree
Rear Cross Camber: within +/- 0.50 degree
Chassis
0.080" before hydroforming, 0.071" after hydroforming --- C5 frame rail wall thickness --- Source
55mm --- Stock driveshaft diameter, part #12561082 --- Source
63mm --- Stock driveshaft diameter, part #12564457 --- Source
2 1/2" --- LG carbon fiber driveshaft --- Source
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