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05-05-2010, 09:18 PM #1
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whote- 98 T/A RAM AIR
replacing dead ls1 - quote feedback request
hey guys, I've posted recently about my 98 Trans am running dry of oil, the engine has 143k miles and the engine is dead basically, the car is almost perfect condition as far interior and exterior appearance, I just received a quotation with 2 options - 1st is LS6 replacement swap - pretty straightforward 2nd option is custom rebuild of existing Ls1 - I am hoping you guys can give me some feedback and/or what questions I should ask the shop that im looking to do the work for me. I work for the phone company and am incapable of doing this myself.
any feedback or input is appreciated so that I can ensure nothing is being missed in the quote or if theres anything you would recommend differently etc - my budget is 7k-9k
Thanks in advance for your feedback - here is the quote
1998 PONTIAC FIREBIRD 5.7L LS1 ENGINE SWAP/REBUILD GOAL 450+ HP
OPTION 1 – COST – CRATE ENGINE LS6 (FROM LINK)
LABOR – REPLACE ENGINE– $1575
REPLACE INTAKE WITH LS6 INTAKE - $200
ENGINE CRATE – $3558 + SHIPPING (NO TAX-CUSTOMER PURCHASE)
TRANSMISSION WORK, OPTIONAL UPGRADES ETC. – SEE BELOW
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OPTION 2 – CUSTOM BUILD
LABOR – SHOP - $2000 INCL R&R ENGINE, STRIP BLOCK & REASSEMBLY
MACHINE WORK:
FULL RACE BORE & HONE WITH PORT PLATE – $360
CLEAN BLOCK - $85
LINE HONE IF NEEDED - $260
CAM BEARINGS INSTALL - $45
VALVE GUIDES - $13 EACH LABOR
FULL RACE 3-ANGLE VALVE JOB - $390
SURFACE HEADS -$85
VALVE SEATS (IF NEEDED) $26 LABOR EACH + $13 EACH SEAT
PORT WORK – FOR A STREET PORT “POCKET PORT” - $650 TESTED WITH FLOW BENCH
MOST BANG FOR THE BUCK
ENGINE KIT/PARTS – - $700 FOR REBUILD KIT – MACHINE WORK & CAM WILL GIVE YOU THE HP. $1200 CAN GET YOU FORGED PISTON ENGINE KIT
CAMSHAFT – RECOMMENDED LUNATI 60511 - $369.95
VALVE SPRINGS – $139.95
LIFTERS - $529.99
FOR THE ABOVE WE’LL BE IN THE 460-500 HP RANGE
TO UPGRADE TO STROKER KIT 525-560HP – LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN MORE POWER IF WITHIN YOUR BUDGET WE CAN PRICE OUT.
WILL NEED REBALANCE ENGINE WITH THIS OPTION- $300
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HEADERS & EXHAUST
HEADERS – LABOR INCLUDED IN ENGINE LABOR PRICE UNLESS FABRICATION IS NEEDED TO FIT
EXHAUST - $600 TO $1200 – WHETHER BOLT-ON (HEDMAN, HOOKER, MAGNAFLOW, ETC. WITH LABOR) OR CUSTOM WELD JOB
HEADERS – HEDMAN $259
PROGRAMMER –$300
DYNOTUNE – OUTSOURCE – WE CAN ADJUST TUNING VIA THE PROGRAMMER IN HOUSE
OTHER PARTS
K&N INTAKE - $303.95
A/C DRIER & ORIFICE TUBE & MATERIALS - $80
ACCESSORY KIT (LINK PROVIDED) –
TRANS COOLER - $50
FLUIDS & FILTERS – TRANS FLUID, OIL, FILTER, SPARK PLUGS, ETC.
LS6 INTAKE POLISHED - $585
3600 STALL CONVERTER - 242931 $499.95
LABOR – TRANSMISSION – SERVICE, REPLACE SEALS AND INSTALL COOLER, CONVERTER - $225 + PARTS
READ END SERVICE - $60 WITH FLUID
PROTHANE SUSPENSION KIT - $700 LABOR – THIS IS A LABOR-INTENSIVE JOB I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE. SINCE YOU’RE DOING THE ENGINE WE’RE ONLY CHARGING $700 IT WOULD BE MORE IF WE DID IT SEPARATELY.
Again, thanks in advance for your valuable input / recommendations . further clarifications I should ask about etc are very much appreciated.
Thanks,
Tom
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05-05-2010, 10:38 PM #2
You could get an LS3 crate engine for $6,675.80 from SDPC.
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05-06-2010, 04:31 AM #3
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05-06-2010, 08:57 AM #4
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whote- 98 T/A RAM AIR
[QUOTE=Spaz;2324321]also need new wireing ect...
Most importantly, thank you for the feedback.
Can you please elaborate on the new wiring requirement?
It's my understanding that my LS1 ECU/Computer was compatible with and LS6, however a dyno tune would be required to wake up the Ponies.
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05-06-2010, 11:03 AM #5
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05-06-2010, 06:25 PM #6
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05-07-2010, 07:30 AM #7
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2007 Cadillac Escalade- 98 Camaro SS, 09 G8 GT
I agree with Cutlass. Skip there tune and get a mail order from Frost. Skip the k&n and go with a lid with k&n filter. Skip the "polished" ls6 intake and get a Shaner ported TB. For the poly bushings, be sure they order black ones. I read from Prothane (i believe) that the black busings contain some natural grease that cuts down alot on squeaks. You can save yourself around $500 by going with what Cutlass said. There's the extra scratch to get yourself a nice triple disc 3600 stall converter.
1998 Sebring Silver Camaro SS Convertible
Cammed, Geared, Stalled and soon to be blown via F1-C
2009 Stryker Blue Pontiac G8 GT
Kook's 1 7/8's LTH's and catted X, Pypes A/B, Vararam, Tune
2007 Black Raven Cadillac Escalade
Vararam, Leveling Kit, 33's
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