dyno guessing game

**0verkill** · 04-17-2009, 04:37 AM

ok next week my ta is going to the dyno so lets see who can guess the closest to what it will put down to the wheels. it is a dyno jet i think. here is a list of the mods on the car.
slp; lid, under drive pulley.
texas-speeds Torquer v.2 Camshaft with 232/234 .595/.598 112lsa
PRC Springs and push rods
texas-speeds 1 7/8 long tube headers with ory and a magnaflow cat back.
ngk tr6 plugs and taylor 409 wires
ls6 oil pump and poly motor mounts and trans mount.
the car is a 01 and a m6.
good luck

also it will be a custom tune and i have a s3 p&p job on the tb

**67rsss** · 04-17-2009, 07:19 AM

On a dynojet, I would think around 405/389

**QKSLVR99** · 04-20-2009, 06:59 AM

depending on the day I would say 385-400ish

eavey dyno is different and temperature plays apart as well as elevation

**Hi-Po** · 04-20-2009, 05:28 PM

Why the TR6 plugs?

I say somehwere around 400. No good at the HP guessing game. Take me for a ride and Ill judge for you. Better hyet, let me drive it, then ill judge.

**0verkill** · 04-21-2009, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by Hi-Po

Why the TR6 plugs?

I say somehwere around 400. No good at the HP guessing game. Take me for a ride and Ill judge for you. Better hyet, let me drive it, then ill judge.

well tracy scott is doing the tune for me and we should be on the dyno any day now. but he tels me that you can get more power out of the tr6's as you can put more timing in it. he was teling me that him and the owners of thunder racing and texas-speed is some testing and they all got the same thing, more power from timeing with the tr6's.

**QKSLVR99** · 04-21-2009, 12:34 PM

interesting?????

**Hi-Po** · 04-21-2009, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by 01 T/A

well tracy scott is doing the tune for me and we should be on the dyno any day now. but he tels me that you can get more power out of the tr6's as you can put more timing in it. he was teling me that him and the owners of thunder racing and texas-speed is some testing and they all got the same thing, more power from timeing with the tr6's.

There is a point were adding timing does absolutley nothing for added power. Just because your not getting any KR, you can keep adding all the timing you want, doesnt always mean your going to make more power. All that number after the TR... is a heat range. Never heard that one before, but Im sure it may be possible.

**0verkill** · 04-21-2009, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Hi-Po

There is a point were adding timing does absolutley nothing for added power. Just because your not getting any KR, you can keep adding all the timing you want, doesnt always mean your going to make more power. All that number after the TR... is a heat range. Never heard that one before, but Im sure it may be possible.

thats the same thing i was thinking to but he dose this for a living and is good at it so im just going with what he sead is going to work the best.

**Firebirdjones** · 04-21-2009, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by 01 T/A

well tracy scott is doing the tune for me and we should be on the dyno any day now. but he tels me that you can get more power out of the tr6's as you can put more timing in it. he was teling me that him and the owners of thunder racing and texas-speed is some testing and they all got the same thing, more power from timeing with the tr6's.

I was told Tracy closed up his shop about a year ago over in Northern Kentucky. Are you telling me he is up and running again somewhere?

**Firebirdjones** · 04-21-2009, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by 01 T/A

thats the same thing i was thinking to but he dose this for a living and is good at it so im just going with what he sead is going to work the best.

HiPo is right. You can throw a cold plug at it,,,and actually we have found the NGK's are about the hottest damn plug out there to be running,,,,but it really won't allow more timing to be thrown in. I like to run colder plugs myself but it's never allowed me to really get aggressive with the tune to the point I would get excited about.
It's really more of a result of combustion chamber design and camshaft profile among other things that will dictate the timing that the motor runs best with.

**0verkill** · 04-22-2009, 04:46 AM

he is working at cincy speed but he is doing stuff on the side at his house. the plug deal is what he has told me so im just going with what he sead is going to be the best.

**Firebirdjones** · 04-22-2009, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by 01 T/A

he is working at cincy speed but he is doing stuff on the side at his house. the plug deal is what he has told me so im just going with what he sead is going to be the best.

Good to hear he's still doing some work.

Ya I like to run cold plugs myself. I've never found a tuning advantage but with todays crappy pump gas I'll do any little trick to keep those combustion chambers cool.
I'm sure he'll get it dialed in for ya.

**smslyguy** · 09-26-2011, 05:28 AM

So what was your dyno numbers. I am running this same set-up with stock heads, ported and polished and a 3valve grind on them. I actually get 29. m.p.g. with this cam on stock heads! Of course with tunning...

**Firebirdjones** · 09-26-2011, 08:14 AM

Evidently it wasn't as good as he was hoping, he never reported back. Guess those magic plugs didn't do the trick

**smslyguy** · 09-26-2011, 08:21 AM

Originally Posted by Firebirdjones

Evidently it wasn't as good as he was hoping, he never reported back. Guess those magic plugs didn't do the trick

Lol, i would be impressed if he it 400 r.w.h. Like i was saying i am running that set up on mine (or close) exept I have a 3"y to a 4" exhaust and I tuned mine myself with efi live tunes. Pulls really hard ,but i doubt it hit's 400r.w.h.p.