stock LS1 vs. Stock lighting & srt-4, charger

Ratdaddy07 · 06-09-2006, 10:53 AM

Yeah, I know I looked to see where everyone was from and most are from the south. But yeah 13.2 is the best I've seen, I'm not saying I've seen a ton and maybe when I did conditions were not the greatest but it makes me wonder if our tracks are up to par. Everyone here thinks Donaldsonville is great and they do hold rather large events there from time to time, driver makes a big difference and those cars have problems hooking up.

**Bob'sWS6** · 06-09-2006, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by 89redrs

Thats it, only a 13.2??? Thats slow, a few stock cobras here are running 12s easily, and that is in Texas

I see a mixed bag with 03/04 Cobras. Those cars run like s*#t in the heat. I've seen them run 13's and 14's bone stock at Speedway. Part of that may be due to driver error, but I think anyone can agree that heat really effects their performance. I don't think anyone will question their ability to run 12's, it just has to be in good conditions.

Doodad I was referring to the Charger's wheel horsepower. They only put down around 260whp, which translates to around 300 flywheel horsepower. An SRT-8 is a different story, as they are heavily underrated horsepower wise (Dyno around 360whp). The SRT-8 will most likely beat an LS1 powered car stock for stock. A few of them have dipped into the 12's, and they all are capable of low 13's stock. The good thing about them is that they are automatic, which makes them near dummy proof.

**Mr. Luos** · 06-09-2006, 05:55 PM

The only one of those cars I came close to loosing against was the SRT-4. And it was modded.

This was when I was bolt-ons only.
Damn turbos and altitude.

**89redrs** · 06-09-2006, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by Bob'sWS6

I see a mixed bag with 03/04 Cobras. Those cars run like s*#t in the heat. I've seen them run 13's and 14's bone stock at Speedway. Part of that may be due to driver error, but I think anyone can agree that heat really effects their performance. I don't think anyone will question their ability to run 12's, it just has to be in good conditions.

Doodad I was referring to the Charger's wheel horsepower. They only put down around 260whp, which translates to around 300 flywheel horsepower. An SRT-8 is a different story, as they are heavily underrated horsepower wise (Dyno around 360whp). The SRT-8 will most likely beat an LS1 powered car stock for stock. A few of them have dipped into the 12's, and they all are capable of low 13's stock. The good thing about them is that they are automatic, which makes them near dummy proof.

At the last dyno day we had at the shop I usually go to for parts, they had a brand new still stickerde srt8 and it layed down 377hp and 385 trq. and my buddys bone ass stock Cobra put down 360!! but the cobra eats it everytime, the srt8 is a force to be recond(sp) with on the highway though!! I was going to do an LSX swap in my 89, but seems it will cost way to much!! So 350 here I come!!!

**Mach1Mustang** · 06-10-2006, 12:10 AM

if an 03/04 cobra runs a 14 then the driver should be forced to pay with his life. They cant drive, i dont care if it was hot outside, those are 12s cars stock. with a good driver they can be mid 12s. Just like an ls1 running 14s. the driver should be shot!!!!!!!

**89redrs** · 06-11-2006, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Mach1Mustang

if an 03/04 cobra runs a 14 then the driver should be forced to pay with his life. They cant drive, i dont care if it was hot outside, those are 12s cars stock. with a good driver they can be mid 12s. Just like an ls1 running 14s. the driver should be shot!!!!!!!

WORD!! My cousins Boltons, stall, and cam, on stock heads ran 11.30s with ease and consistentcy!!

**cailey37** · 10-18-2006, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Mach1Mustang

if an 03/04 cobra runs a 14 then the driver should be forced to pay with his life. They cant drive, i dont care if it was hot outside, those are 12s cars stock. with a good driver they can be mid 12s. Just like an ls1 running 14s. the driver should be shot!!!!!!!

Here are the times on the Cobras you mentioned...these were professional drivers ......
2003 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9
2004 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9

**nathan sluss** · 11-14-2006, 02:18 PM

I was talking to a neighbor that is very straight-up.... he went 12.30's with drag radials in his 03 Cobra.... so he quit trying. He is an old guy that dosn't want to hurt his ride. I kinda don't blame him. We are in OH with a low elevation and that was early in the year with cool temps but still gd.

**AKIRA** · 11-14-2006, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by 99blueZ

LS1 vs. SRT-4: The SRT-4 has front wheel drive and a turbo so it will probably get you off the line and you will need to play a little catch up, but not for long. Newer ones have 230hp vs 215 in the older ones.

First off, FWD are the worst cars for traction from a stop.
Secondly, turbos need to spool, which means they hardly have shit from a stop.

**bones srt-4** · 11-15-2006, 05:05 AM

Originally Posted by AKIRA

First off, FWD are the worst cars for traction from a stop.
Secondly, turbos need to spool, which means they hardly have shit from a stop.

yea ,fwd sucks for traction. but only the big turbos need to spool up ,the little one in my srt boosts pretty quick.

**Musclefan21** · 11-15-2006, 06:45 PM

after getting into drag racing, now i know 05+ stangs vs. srt-4s is not drivers race.. i can beat any stock srt-4s with no problem

and i can give a good run to LS1s and lightnings (stock)

**bones srt-4** · 11-15-2006, 07:27 PM

the best i ever did when my srt was stock was a 14.2 @ 99 . we had a 06 mustang gt at the track this w/e he ran 13.99 @100.

**Pythias** · 11-15-2006, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by cailey37

Here are the times on the Cobras you mentioned...these were professional drivers ......
2003 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9
2004 Ford Mustang Cobra SVT 4.5 12.9

So that means that stock for stock none can increase those times?

All of those online 1/4 times are usually mroe than likely off. I have looked up many diff sites, some cars asre faster than what they say, some are slower. A friend of mine in Ohio (where I used to live) had an 03' Cobra, did full exhaust, diff pulley, a few other little odds and ends and a tune all totally around 1200. He ran it with a crappy ass 60' and ran a 12.1. Needless to say with some nice tires it was into the 11's. Stock he ran a best of 12.6 STOCK those cars are 12.5-12.9 range, if you can drive.

**Musclefan21** · 11-15-2006, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by bones srt-4

the best i ever did when my srt was stock was a 14.2 @ 99 . we had a 06 mustang gt at the track this w/e he ran 13.99 @100.

My best with my stone stock to air filter 06 stang GT is 13.43 @ 102.38mph and i have been doing consistent 13.6 runs. and my i have done 3 times 1.9 60'

here is a video of me cutting 1.93 60' and against stage 2 modded srt-4. i was on him untill i missed 4th gear and he came right next to me and we finished dead even. ( i ran 13.6 @93mph on that run)

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/5...450042d3ff.htm

**Musclefan21** · 11-15-2006, 10:19 PM

Originally Posted by Pythias

So that means that stock for stock none can increase those times?

All of those online 1/4 times are usually mroe than likely off. I have looked up many diff sites, some cars asre faster than what they say, some are slower. A friend of mine in Ohio (where I used to live) had an 03' Cobra, did full exhaust, diff pulley, a few other little odds and ends and a tune all totally around 1200. He ran it with a crappy ass 60' and ran a 12.1. Needless to say with some nice tires it was into the 11's. Stock he ran a best of 12.6 STOCK those cars are 12.5-12.9 range, if you can drive.

ford says 05+ stang GTs are 13.5 and i ran 13.4