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11-23-2008, 03:44 PM #1
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Bright Red- 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
Made a "few" passes, found out a few things
Ran at Cecil County Dragway today during a private track rental.
I made a few passes (LOL) and also found out a few things about my car.
MY TIMESLIP INFO
Run - 60' ---- ET ---- MPH
#1 - 1.60 - 11.71 - 115.70
#2 - 1.62 - 11.70 - 116.09
#3 - 1.59 - 11.69 - 115.91
#4 - 2.43 - 15.28 - 73.00 (SPUN BAD and just cruised through)
#5 - 1.63 - 11.74 - 115.35 (tried adding 2* timing @ wot)
#6 - 1.58 - 11.66 - 116.22 (back to previous tune)
#7 - 1.59 - 11.66 - 116.14
#8 - 1.59 - 11.64 - 116.29
#9 - 1.60 - 11.72 - 115.43 (tried subtracting 2* @ wot)
#10- 1.60 - 11.70 - 115.90 (back to previous tune)
#11- 1.61 - 11.67 - 116.01
#12- 1.57 - 11.61 - 116.51 (New Best) (raised 1>2 shift rpm 100 rpm's)
#13- 1.57 - 11.62 - 116.45
#14- 1.59 - 11.67 - 115.74
#15- 1.58 - 11.63 - 116.46
#16- 1.60 - 11.64 - 115.84
#17- 1.57 - 11.62 - 116.32
#18- 1.61 - 11.66 - 115.75
#19- 1.57 - 11.62 - 116.17
#20- 1.57 - 11.65 - 115.50
#21- 1.59 - 11.66 - 115.71
#22- 1.57 - 11.62 - 115.93
#23- 1.58 - 11.67 - 115.52
What I found out:
1. My car LOVES being hot-lapped
2. The cutout makes no difference whatsoever (over my SLP dual/dual catback)
3. My car runs the same ET/MPH/60 foots with 342 gears, as it does with 410's.
4. My car runs pretty much the same 60 foots regardless of foot brake launch rpm.
5. If I didn't redlight every other pass, I'd be a helluva bracket racer, lol.
BIG THANKS to FROST for helping me get my car to not only run well WOT, but run great in the real world in day to day driving as well.2002 Silverado Z71 ECSB HPTuners tuned by yours truly
2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6 6.0, 4L80E, 9" rear
webpage: http://www.fquick.com/rel3rd/
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11-24-2008, 02:50 PM #2
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Bright Red- 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
A buddy was kind enough to post a video of 4 of my runs.
And here's one posted by another buddy:
http://s52.photobucket.com/albums/g3...t=M2U00470.flv
The cutout made no difference, but it sounds pretty good, LOL.
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11-25-2008, 08:15 AM #3
You car would be a GREAT setup for bracket racing -- the ET's are so very consistent! Well done!
I'd love to be able to make it to the track and get in 23 runs!
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11-25-2008, 10:16 AM #4
do u got head/cam or "just" cam
#148,LS6 intake, pp tb, SLP Lid, SLP maf, OBX LT into Y, Hooker, 4K Circle D Stall, 3.73 richmond gears, Performabuilt Lvl 2, tranny cooler, 228 texas with supporting mods and tune by Frost, Dyno: 365rwhp & 343rwtq
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11-25-2008, 12:33 PM #5
Such a consistent car, thats great. If I remember right you are still running on the original 4L60E that hasn't been cracked open????
Sure is a fun day when you can run a car that consistent and never have to open the hood.
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11-25-2008, 01:39 PM #6
23 passes in one day, you beatin on that poor thing LOL Congrats on the new best. I see my friend Bill with the white T/A on spray was there too & got a new best.
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11-25-2008, 02:25 PM #7
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11-25-2008, 02:27 PM #8
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Bright Red- 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
You remember 100% correctly. Stock high mileage 4L60E. It's been regularly serviced, but never rebuilt.
I agree 100% about racing all day without touching the car. It's great to drive 45 miles, let some air out of the tires, make 23 passes, air up the tires and drive back home...
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11-25-2008, 02:28 PM #9
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11-26-2008, 06:25 AM #10
so whats your race weight...
dunno what i doing wrong...lol...i no my 60 sucks...mods in sig
best 12.4@112 richmond track crappy 60 of 1.8-1.9Last edited by GNICTRY; 11-26-2008 at 06:26 AM. Reason: missed info
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11-26-2008, 10:05 AM #11
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11-26-2008, 10:18 AM #12
wish i could do that ...i prob my suspension...
my weight is appr 3650...est. weight (took out subs and only 1/4 tank) 3700 w/ me, two 12s and a 1/2 tank...
yours launchs great! nice run
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11-26-2008, 10:29 AM #13
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Thanks. I "had" some high dollar suspension mods, but swapped back to mostly stock parts when I saw ZERO gains from the race stuff.
FWIW, here is my suspension:
Bilstein HD shocks & struts
1LE springs front & rear
Front swaybar ON
Rear swaybar ON
STOCK Torque arm w/poly front bushing
STOCK, but boxed, lower control arms w/poly bushings
STOCK, but boxed, panhard bar w/poly bushings
My average 60 foot times for the day were 1.59, with several 1.57's. The car hooks 99% of the time and average 60 foots were actually slightly slower with a gaggle of Spohn, Strange, and adjustable this & thats...not to mention clunky and squeaky. I'm certain that the only way my car will 60 foot any better is to either add more power, and/or shed some weight. If my job situation stays good, I may finally throw some nitrous at it, since my cam is actually a nitrous cam. So far I've bolted two different nitrous kits on the car, and removed them both without ever spraying an ounce of nitrous, lol...
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11-26-2008, 10:46 AM #14
looks like i need shocks n struts...mine are 116k stock ones w/ rlc brkt...still got all stock suspen. parts on
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11-27-2008, 07:21 AM #15
With a nitrous cam I assume the lobe sep is spread out pretty far????
I was thinking you were also running a 3600 converter in it??? Wasn't that a fuddle??? I thought there was an intake swap to an LS6??? but the heads are stockers. Forgive me if I'm a little fuzzy here.
I wasn't aware you took all the suspension back off,,,but I remember you were experimenting with some adjustable parts that didn't gain you anything. Probably added weight too anyway.
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11-27-2008, 07:25 AM #16
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11-27-2008, 08:58 AM #17
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Bright Red- 2000 Pontiac Trans Am WS6
LSA is 112, but it was spec'd for a car with identical mods and a 150 shot.
I wouldn't buy anything from Fuddle, ever.
Here's everything, drivetrain-wise:
Stock 116,000 mile bottom end
Stock 116,000 mile 241 heads w/918 springs
JetHot brand 1-3/4" longtubes with JetHot brand ORY
Hybrid Dynomax piped/SLP dual/dual mufflered catback w/Summit electric cutout)
226 cam w/112* lsa (spec'd for identical car w/150 shot)
LS6 intake (egr/air deleted)
Home ported TB w/coolant bypass
De-screened maf meter
PCV catch can
March underdrive pulley
SLP lid and smooth bellow
SSRA
Stock 116,000 mile 4L60E transmission w/Hayden cooler
Precision Industries Vigilante 3600 converter
Stock aluminum driveshaft
3 channel rear out of 95 Z converted to 4 channel (342 gears)
HPTuner Tuned by me with a lot of previous help and advice from Frost/LSxTune.com
My lower control arms and panhard bar are actually the stock, boxed stuff that SLP used to sell.
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11-27-2008, 09:33 AM #18
Very cool,,,,it's great to see a car run so well for so very little.
Guess my memory wasn't too far off
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11-27-2008, 09:51 AM #19
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12-04-2008, 08:23 AM #20
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