Body Lines off horribly..

**JoshieDoom** · 02-16-2008, 03:10 PM

As you can see in this picuture my rear bumper looks a little low... its all tight and firm but the gap is quite annoying.. ive looked at many pics at it seems like the gap is different on most cars.. any ideas?

**chuckie669** · 02-16-2008, 03:16 PM

Damn bro, good luck. I also have something a little off on the side. Torque ftw...

**JoshieDoom** · 02-16-2008, 03:31 PM

Yeah no joke.. lol..

**KyleLs1** · 02-16-2008, 03:39 PM

pull it off and see if it is missing any bolts or clips or anything... could just need a 2 dollar clip or something

**JoshieDoom** · 02-16-2008, 03:45 PM

Its all tight and all together.. i was just underneath it. I even tried pushing it up and it didnt move an inch..it seems like the top end of the panel(where the pontiac logo is) is bowing out.. I wonder is this a TSB...

**KyleLs1** · 02-16-2008, 04:36 PM

maybe it was in a wreck, and not fixed correctly?
either way, the bumper will have to come off to fix it so that is a good place to start. take it off and see whats goin on under there - just cuz it is tight, doesn't mean it is installed correctly

**JoshieDoom** · 02-16-2008, 05:12 PM

I might take it off tomorrow depending on how cold/rainy/ it is. It appears that it has been taken off before.. so ill let you guys know what going on..

**TransAm11973** · 02-16-2008, 07:21 PM

if the bumper is on ok, then i would try to lossen your tailights up and then move them to see if the gap is any better,...looks as if you have a modified filler panel in there between your tail lights so maybe when they were put back on the lights werent exactly centered and thts whats making your lines off......

**JoshieDoom** · 02-16-2008, 08:34 PM

Ill try that in a few.. ive got a problem with the reverse lights sealing anyway..

**lemons12** · 02-16-2008, 09:29 PM

my lines are off all over....... nobody can tell but me.. haha... it wasnt TQ FTW it was old owner saying DITCH FTW! lol body shop did a bad job

**JoshieDoom** · 02-17-2008, 09:30 AM

Yeah.. i think the previous owner did a dukes of hazzard and doomed the front end... I guess when I get the car repainted Ill have the body shop worry about it...

i wonder if my insurance will go up drastically if i turn it in on it...

**Firebird Phoenix** · 02-17-2008, 11:36 AM

Originally Posted by JoshieDoom

Its all tight and all together.. i was just underneath it. I even tried pushing it up and it didnt move an inch..it seems like the top end of the panel(where the pontiac logo is) is bowing out.. I wonder is this a TSB...

The top of the bumper (above the "Pontiac") has 4 plastic push pins (really cheap to buy new ones at a local autozone). Just remove the tail lights, and make sure the top of the bumper is even pulled over the "lip" and even if there are the plastic pins as that is what i'm guessing is missing and wrong. Hopefully that helps, let us know what happens.

**JoshieDoom** · 02-17-2008, 12:12 PM

Ahh.. im headed outside right now while its warm... and i just got outta the shower.. time to get dirty again

**Firebird Phoenix** · 02-17-2008, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by JoshieDoom

Ahh.. im headed outside right now while its warm... and i just got outta the shower.. time to get dirty again

It's not to bad, it should take you take you no more than a couple minutes to pull back the carpet, remove tail lights and see if the bumper is pulled over the lip and has the pins in. Hopefully it is just something as simple as the previous owner didn't install it correctly.

**JoshieDoom** · 02-17-2008, 12:29 PM

All good to go... looks like factory 98 dust to me...no signs of being rigged... it might have been done right along time ago..

now where else to begin

Tailights and bumper are aligned perfectly.. minus the inch gap..

Maybe rubber shims can be installed???

I need lots of body work done... (ie.. new front bumper due to spidercracks, hood was painted crappy... and a door ding..)

Next years tax money?? lol

BTW its a 150xxx hard driven daily driver...

**Firebird Phoenix** · 02-17-2008, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by JoshieDoom

All good to go... looks like factory 98 dust to me...no signs of being rigged... it might have been done right along time ago..

now where else to begin

Tailights and bumper are aligned perfectly.. minus the inch gap..

Maybe rubber shims can be installed???

I need lots of body work done... (ie.. new front bumper due to spidercracks, hood was painted crappy... and a door ding..)

Next years tax money?? lol

BTW its a 150xxx hard driven daily driver...

It might be worth it to just the bumper off completely to really see whats up instead of placing some plastic shims (which is an ok route I guess) if I were you. Not to hard to remove the bumper.

**JoshieDoom** · 03-12-2008, 11:21 PM

Update. So after taking a lot of crap apart it appears to be the bumper reinforment has apparently shrunk.. Im going to replace the front and rear bumper and reinforments one day.. when I get a DD...

**Firebird Phoenix** · 03-14-2008, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by JoshieDoom

Update. So after taking a lot of crap apart it appears to be the bumper reinforment has apparently shrunk.. Im going to replace the front and rear bumper and reinforments one day.. when I get a DD...

Weird. I have a rear bumper reinforcement if you looking to replace it now.