sail speakers

**griftymcgrift** · 02-14-2008, 09:29 AM

My sail speakers blew and i put rockford fosgate 6 1/2 components ( with the tweeter in the middle)in and they have very little sound now. i know its the ohms. is there any way to reduce the ohms of the speaker or increase the ohm capability of the radio? i was thinking about cutting the tweeter wire b/c i know that is the reason for some of the extra ohms....any help guys?
thanks

**2002ls1** · 02-16-2008, 05:27 PM

i woluld take back the coaxils...and get a pair of mid bass speakers that will work......plenty of info on speakers that fit and will work.....IMO you will not be happy with those speakers if you do what your planning to do......

**CJREX** · 02-18-2008, 06:09 AM

Elemental Designs 7Kv2 FTW.

**griftymcgrift** · 02-20-2008, 09:59 AM

the EDs sound like what im gonna get....thay have GREAT reviews...do any stores supply them or is it internet only?

**CJREX** · 02-22-2008, 06:45 AM

You can very rarely find them on eBay.

Best to just get them from ED website.

The listed price includes shipping so it's pretty reasonable.

Around $65 each.

**fredmr85** · 02-22-2008, 10:34 AM

When they are on eBay, they're usually being sold by Elemental Designs anyway for about the same price... just a way for them to reach out to more people.

**LS16SPD** · 02-22-2008, 10:45 AM

Just Do Away With Everything Like I Did Put Some Infinitys In The Doors And Rear Panels 400 Watt Amp And A Small Sub Its Un Fuckin Real!!!

**griftymcgrift** · 02-22-2008, 06:44 PM

sooo the elementals, i can just plug and play?...i know i need the ones w/ two inputs, but otherwise..just plug em in? i dont need a lot of sound... just to listen to a lil loud...haha.

**Silver Streak** · 02-22-2008, 06:49 PM

Yeah.. I'm in the same boat.. mine have finally gone.. I dont want to stick a lot of money into them.. but want something that sounds good.. cause my EQ looks like a set of stairs... lol

**fredmr85** · 02-22-2008, 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by griftymcgrift

sooo the elementals, i can just plug and play?...i know i need the ones w/ two inputs, but otherwise..just plug em in? i dont need a lot of sound... just to listen to a lil loud...haha.

No -- you need a spacer.

http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=639901

**blacklightning01** · 02-23-2008, 07:41 AM

kicker has new subs that will fit in the sail panel. its the kicker cvt65. looks really good and shallow enough that you wont need to put a spacer in.

**third_shift|studios** · 02-25-2008, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by blacklightning01

kicker has new subs that will fit in the sail panel. its the kicker cvt65. looks really good and shallow enough that you wont need to put a spacer in.

per kicker's website-they recommend a sealed enclosure for better responce. the ED's are free-air speakers and would still be a better choice.

Good looking out though! I was about to consider them

**LS16SPD** · 02-25-2008, 08:49 AM

Check Out The Bostin Acoustics Stuff

**fredmr85** · 02-25-2008, 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by LS16SPD

Check Out The Bostin Acoustics Stuff

He's looking for sail panel replacements... Boston Acoustics only offers subs as small as 8"

**fredmr85** · 02-25-2008, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by third_shift|studios

per kicker's website-they recommend a sealed enclosure for better responce. the ED's are free-air speakers and would still be a better choice.

Good looking out though! I was about to consider them

Though Kicker doesn't state it specifically, I'm sure they would be fine free-air. Below are descriptions I found off of two seperate sites regarding the product:

{
"Kicker CompVT 6.5" subwoofer was specially designed for “Livin’ Loud” in the harsh automotive environment. CompVT subwoofers are versatile and surpass the competition in a sealed box, but can also be mounted in free air applications and factory cutout locations. The small diameter of the CompVT 6.5" subwoofer makes it ideal for custom installations and space-limited applications."
}

{
Details:

* 6.5" 4-ohm subwoofer
* injection-molded polypropylene woofer cone with ribbed Santoprene surround
* suitable for marine use
* works in free-air applications
* power handling: 50-150 watts RMS (300 watts peak power)
* frequency response: 25-350 Hz
* sensitivity: 84.6 dB
* top-mount depth: 2-13/16"
* sealed box volume: 0.2-3.0 cubic feet
* warranty: 1 year
}

**jimmi7769** · 02-27-2008, 02:59 PM

doesn't that 6.5" 4 ohm speaker line make it not to good for the 2 ohm monsoon setup??

**fredmr85** · 02-28-2008, 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by jimmi7769

doesn't that 6.5" 4 ohm speaker line make it not to good for the 2 ohm monsoon setup??

They make a 2 ohm version..that's just the one I happened to copy.

And 4 ohms would be fine anyway (but since there is a choice here, 2 ohms would be best)... the higher quality speaker and better sensitivity would make up for the difference.

**griftymcgrift** · 02-28-2008, 08:18 AM

my sail speakers have two sets of onputs. and on the back it says 4ohm/4ohm. i notice the kickers only have one set of inputs...whats up w/ that?

**fredmr85** · 02-28-2008, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by griftymcgrift

my sail speakers have two sets of onputs. and on the back it says 4ohm/4ohm. i notice the kickers only have one set of inputs...whats up w/ that?

Firebirds use dual voice coil subs.

You would just use one pair of wires to power a single voice-coil sub. You lose some power from the Monsoon amp though. Because of that, I think the best replacement for the Firebirds are these: http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=639901

Unless someone can find another 6.5" dual 4-ohm sub...