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    Torque Management??

    I'm looking at GTO's again and heard that their traction control is a sort of torque management system and that its a pain to tune out. Is this true, and what have you guys done?

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    Not really....you can tune it all out or tune it "down".....Mine is totally tuned out by Allen Nelson and HP Tuners...I have zero TM....

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    Traction control is a seperate entity which you either leave on or switch off. Torque mgt. is a hinderence but as Sarge stated, it can be tuned out. My tm is minimal through the predator handheld and what a world of difference it makes.
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    wooo wooo dont have mine anymore!

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    Cool, thanks guys. I hate this computer crap

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    Hey got1goat were did u go on the predator for that, or what did u set yours on

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    Z28,
    Tune it out or get a reprogrammed TCM to remove it and add a SEG.

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    Whoever told you that is confused! Have it removed when you get it tuned which is easy for a tuner or remove it yourself with a quality hand held tuner.
    It's no big deal. With the A4 auto cars it is just a way for GM to baby the tranny for there warr. bullshit.
    I have MANY cars out there on 150+ of nitrous and drag radials with it removed and have not had one break yet.
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    Amen and pass the plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GOT1GOAT View Post
    Traction control is a seperate entity which you either leave on or switch off. Torque mgt. is a hinderence but as Sarge stated, it can be tuned out. My tm is minimal through the predator handheld and what a world of difference it makes.
    Am i understanding this correctly when i turn off the traction control there is still torque management engaged? I'm trying to figure out why but the throttle response is not the same as the camaro and trans am which doesnt make sense to me as it is still an ls1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blownone94 View Post
    Am i understanding this correctly when i turn off the traction control there is still torque management engaged? I'm trying to figure out why but the throttle response is not the same as the camaro and trans am which doesnt make sense to me as it is still an ls1
    Yes you are correct. Without tuning software you can NOT turn the TM off.
    I take it off like the rubber mounted 2 piece drive shafts.....

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    Rubber mounted 2 piece driveshaft? apperently i need to take a better look at this car do they have replacement shafts that you buy? sounds like my z3 but my z3 hasn't nearly the hp this car has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blownone94 View Post
    Rubber mounted 2 piece driveshaft? apperently i need to take a better look at this car do they have replacement shafts that you buy? sounds like my z3 but my z3 hasn't nearly the hp this car has.
    Yeah it was a cheap and effective way for them to elimnate a vibration issues.
    You talk about flex...It's basically 2 rubber motor mounts mounted to both front and rear yokes in a triangle. So the driveshaft and the yoke are NOT mounted to eachother but to the same piece of rubber.
    I'll try to post some pics for you. I had some on here but I deleted them before I found the real way to post pics without storing them.
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    I left them large so you could see the detail.

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    so what did you do to get rid of it just a new drive shaft ?

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    Replaced with a 3.5" alum. 1 piece shaft with the big 3550 U-joints from Inland Empire Driveline.
    http://www.iedls.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2Tuner View Post
    Replaced with a 3.5" alum. 1 piece shaft with the big 3550 U-joints from Inland Empire Driveline.
    http://www.iedls.com/
    How much if you don't mind me asking

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    Quote Originally Posted by LS2Tuner View Post
    Replaced with a 3.5" alum. 1 piece shaft with the big 3550 U-joints from Inland Empire Driveline.
    http://www.iedls.com/
    Yeah, I'd like to know how much you paid as well.

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