Killed my GTO buddies ego....

**hutch1999** · 03-08-2007, 02:50 PM

Last night I was cruising around town waiting for my girlfriend to get off work when all the sudden a red 2004 GTO flys past me. It happened to be my buddy who had just bought the car from his dad awhile back. Its a 2004 all stock m6. He gets beside me and I roll the window down to tell him get going 30mph and on the 3rd beep of my horn mash it. I drop down to 1st honk three times and destroy him. By 80mph I had around 4 cars on him. I pull into Mcdonalds to talk and he pulls beside me and has the biggest look of shock on his face. He then asks me what I have in that thing and I told him that I had the same thing he had with a coulpe extras. I told him good race and we went our seperate ways. Thats the second 04' ive killed since ive had my car, but only the 4th total kill. Seems like those GTOs are pigs.

**Stone** · 03-08-2007, 02:52 PM

Sweet kill.....the 04 GTO guys got shafted!!lol

**hutch1999** · 03-08-2007, 02:56 PM

I guess they did lol, I bet he really hated it when I told him my car was a 1998 with 125,000 miles on it.

**secondgearscratch** · 03-08-2007, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by hutch1999

I guess they did lol, I bet he really hated it when I told him my car was a 1998 with 125,000 miles on it.

same kill story, same outcome. and yup they are pigs. but they are our kin

**GottaHaveLS1** · 03-08-2007, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by hutch1999

Last night I was cruising around town waiting for my girlfriend to get off work when all the sudden a red 2004 GTO flys past me. It happened to be my buddy who had just bought the car from his dad awhile back. Its a 2004 all stock m6. He gets beside me and I roll the window down to tell him get going 30mph and on the 3rd beep of my horn mash it. I drop down to 1st honk three times and destroy him. By 80mph I had around 4 cars on him. I pull into Mcdonalds to talk and he pulls beside me and has the biggest look of shock on his face. He then asks me what I have in that thing and I told him that I had the same thing he had with a coulpe extras. I told him good race and we went our seperate ways. Thats the second 04' ive killed since ive had my car, but only the 4th total kill. Seems like those GTOs are pigs.

Am i the only one on this site that doesn't downshift into first????? It's terrible for your tranny. first is designed to just get the car moving. unless you don't have stock tranny internals, then i wouldn't do it.

**hutch1999** · 03-08-2007, 03:14 PM

Originally Posted by secondgearscratch

same kill story, same outcome. and yup they are pigs. but they are our kin

I know, i wish they weighed about 500lbs less

**hutch1999** · 03-08-2007, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by GottaHaveLS1

Am i the only one on this site that doesn't downshift into first????? It's terrible for your tranny. first is designed to just get the car moving. unless you don't have stock tranny internals, then i wouldn't do it.

I slowed down way down before down shifting into 1st gear. Its not bad when you slow way down and rev match it.

**secondgearscratch** · 03-08-2007, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by hutch1999

I know, i wish they weighed about 500lbs less

+1 on that. they have great interiors and are solid, i looked at a few but i couldnt justify the cost difference between an 04 and a low milage f-body. plus the f-body makes the goats look like chickens.......................

**Wesman** · 03-08-2007, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by GottaHaveLS1

Am i the only one on this site that doesn't downshift into first????? It's terrible for your tranny. first is designed to just get the car moving. unless you don't have stock tranny internals, then i wouldn't do it.

I'm with you bro. I don't think I've ever downshifted to first on the fly, I either have to be going very slow (~5MPH) or at a complete stop before I'll engage 1st gear. If I'm just idleing around a parking lot or something I keep it in 2nd (I have 4.10's), no need for 1st unless I'm really crawling or stopped completely.

**ATCharming** · 03-08-2007, 07:58 PM

wtf??? if you rev match correctly, downshifting has not a single negative effect on the tranny.

why do you think they make automatics that downshift one or two gears at a time? cuz it makes you go faster!

**Wesman** · 03-08-2007, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by ATCharming

wtf??? if you rev match correctly, downshifting has not a single negative effect on the tranny.

why do you think they make automatics that downshift one or two gears at a time? cuz it makes you go faster!

Well of course...

But we're talking about 1st gear here, not exactly a gear you downshift from on a roll. Some cars actually have 1st gear lockouts above a certain speed, to prevent you from engaging it above a slow roll.

**Kurgan12** · 03-08-2007, 09:57 PM

Originally Posted by Wesman

Well of course...

But we're talking about 1st gear here, not exactly a gear you downshift from on a roll. Some cars actually have 1st gear lockouts above a certain speed, to prevent you from engaging it above a slow roll.

Yes, you can Rev match to any gear as long as it's not something like 75mph first gear. I do not have an LS1, but I know in my SHO I can rap 1st out to 45mph. All you have to do is push in the clutch give it some gas (to about where you think the rpms will be once you downshift) then move the stick. If you did it right your rpms should barely vchange and it should shift as smooth as butter. I don't see how that could at all be hard on a tranny, it's going to be spinning the rpms that you revv'd it up to. Now if your moving in 2nd or 3rd at 30 then drop to 1st thats harsh.

**hutch1999** · 03-08-2007, 11:51 PM

rev matching is your friend

**Raoul-Duke** · 03-09-2007, 08:09 AM

yeah its not really a race with a modded ls1 f-bod vs. a ls1 goat... i have a stock auto 04 gto, im just gonna do intake, cutouts, and shift kit...i know its not comparable to a f-bod...i just hate it when people with 04 goats think there hot shit, just cuz its a goat....i bought mine for luxury, big back seat, and the ls1....its my dd, and it has luxury and options that no f-bod can compare too...also i bought a ls1 goat instead of a ls2 cuz i knew i would get a better deal on it...and i did

**secondgearscratch** · 03-09-2007, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by blackz-lt1

yeah its not really a race with a modded ls1 f-bod vs. a ls1 goat... i have a stock auto 04 gto, im just gonna do intake, cutouts, and shift kit...i know its not comparable to a f-bod...i just hate it when people with 04 goats think there hot shit, just cuz its a goat....i bought mine for luxury, big back seat, and the ls1....its my dd, and it has luxury and options that no f-bod can compare too...also i bought a ls1 goat instead of a ls2 cuz i knew i would get a better deal on it...and i did

its not a race stock vs. stock.
at least that was my experience.....

**Raoul-Duke** · 03-09-2007, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by secondgearscratch

its not a race stock vs. stock.
at least that was my experience.....

yeah stock for stock ls1 goat vs. ls1 f-bod....is like racing a stock lt1 vs. a stock ls1

**hutch1999** · 03-09-2007, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by blackz-lt1

yeah stock for stock ls1 goat vs. ls1 f-bod....is like racing a stock lt1 vs. a stock ls1

+1...

**MikeSomething** · 03-10-2007, 07:09 AM

So go out now and hunt down an LS2 Goat... Or maybe an SRT-8, hehe.

**Badbird** · 03-10-2007, 07:21 AM

a stock lt1 vs a stock ls1 in a 1/8th mile is a drivers race. i have proven that, 1/4 mile is where the ls1 hp will catch the lt1 driver skills. you would have to know nothing about ours to disagree with me.