headers

**camarostripes96** · 09-22-2006, 06:59 PM

i have a 96 trans am lt1 , and just wandering , i dont have the money to get long tube and have them put on, but i heard shorty headers just bolt right up to your stock exhaust. I was just needing to know if they are anygood at all and worth getting?

**Z06-Goose** · 09-23-2006, 01:26 AM

Minimal gains. Get some gears instead.

**Hurley711** · 09-23-2006, 03:01 AM

Save for LTs brother, only way to go.

**Eric@VictoryRacing** · 09-23-2006, 08:36 AM

Save up for long tubes. Pacesetter makes some rather inexpensive headers, and are have been quite popular lately.

**ls1bandit** · 09-23-2006, 11:02 AM

yeah long tubes are alittle bit more work but well worth it. you get a couple guys together and it will take you about 3-4 hours depending on how hard it is to get your old bolts off your manifold.

**BlackLT1Z28** · 09-23-2006, 05:31 PM

Shorties don't flow worth shit. Just look at how the primaries bend. You can't tell me shit flows well through those.
Pacesetter LT's are the way to go. Headers and ORY shipped for around $520. Can't beat that price.

**camarostripes96** · 09-23-2006, 11:57 PM

yeah 250 for just black coated ones? are those any good at all i heard to stay away from them? and get ceramic coated for 550, i have no clue, i was going to get the black painted ones but heard they rust and warp

**BlackLT1Z28** · 09-24-2006, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by camarostripes96

yeah 250 for just black coated ones? are those any good at all i heard to stay away from them? and get ceramic coated for 550, i have no clue, i was going to get the black painted ones but heard they rust and warp

Do it right and get the coated ones. The painted ones will flake within the first week and then start to rust sooner. Coated headers will rust too, but they take longer to do so, like a few years. Plus coating helps keep under hood temps downs while looking nice under the hood.
The only way to avoid rusting, is to pop for some stainless steel headers, but those are the cream of the crop and damn expensive. Nice if you can afford them, but they go for around $800+.

**camarostripes96** · 09-25-2006, 03:41 PM

what if i get the black ones and out header wraps on them, then u cant tell they rust and will reduce heat

**BlackLT1Z28** · 09-25-2006, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by camarostripes96

what if i get the black ones and out header wraps on them, then u cant tell they rust and will reduce heat

This is true...you won't be able to tell, but it will still be there.

**camarostripes96** · 09-26-2006, 03:52 PM

ok well i will get some headers later but for now i have to fix my exhaust leaks for now, so does anyone recomend gutting my cats out, with my stock manifolds and y pipe? and also do yall think it will sound shitty or good to put a electric cut out on right before my muffler?

**djvaly** · 10-02-2006, 01:44 PM

I have done some research on LT Header and Y pipe package:
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LGMotorsports:

LG Pro LT Headers and Y pipe $879 + Cats $300

Labor $550

Gain 30rwhp +

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QTP - http://www.quicktimeperformance.com

$799 just the LT header + $525 Y pipe = $1325

upto 30-35rwhp gain

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Jet-Hot http://www.jet-hot.com/

http://www.lmperformance.com/c/7/1.html#LT%20Headers

Long Tube Headers w/ Cats, and Y-pipe 98-02 LS1 003652

$899.95 package

25-30 rwhp gain

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PACESETTER

http://texas-speed.com/shop/item.asp

Pacesetter Headers & TSP Cat Y Pipe Combo

$700

gains over 20rwhp

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KOOKS

http://www.kookscustomheaders.com

Camaro/Firebird (LS1) 1998 - 1999 ---- Air Fittings and EGR With Venturi Collectors

1 3/4" x 3" - Stainless

$864 + Y-pipe 3" Catted LS-1 Y Pipe w/ Magnaflo Metallic Cats – Stainless $590.00 = $1454

25-28rwhp gain

**BlackLT1Z28** · 10-04-2006, 11:47 AM

Don't go to Texas Speed for Pacesetters. That is the highest price I have ever seen for pacesetter LT's.
I got coated LT's with Y for $520. Average price though is about $550. $700 is way overpriced.

**ls1bandit** · 10-04-2006, 02:42 PM

wow texas must have jacked up their prices cuz i got my pacesetters from them with y-pipe for 540 shipped.

**CamaroFan71** · 10-07-2006, 07:21 AM

I lucked out and got my Coated Pacesetter LT's with a Coated ORY and all hardware for $400. And he Lived 5 miles away

Check Ebay and ALL car forums man.

**95camaro131** · 10-17-2006, 05:30 PM

what about hooker supercomp 1 3/4 p and 3in c my car has 3in true duels dumped at rear end no cats now thats flow lol

**KillinFormula** · 10-20-2006, 02:15 PM

i have mac mid length headers and love them!!! they give great powe, i htink Andy or 5.0this is runnin AS&Ms which are a nother great header....
LTs are nice for the power and you can find them dirt cheap... install maybe a little difficult, but possible, plug access isnt optimal. WIth macs i can change my plus with a a socket wrench, plug socket and and open end box end in 30 minutes from the top of my car. I think i saw some macs on LS1tech or on camaroz28 for like 300 used... i think i bought mine for 225 used.

**camarolvr69** · 11-09-2006, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by BlackLT1Z28

Don't go to Texas Speed for Pacesetters. That is the highest price I have ever seen for pacesetter LT's.
I got coated LT's with Y for $520. Average price though is about $550. $700 is way overpriced.

Yeah its 700 for coated pacesetters and Catted y...you payed 520 for lt's and ORY

**BlackLT1Z28** · 11-09-2006, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by camarolvr69

Yeah its 700 for coated pacesetters and Catted y...you payed 520 for lt's and ORY

No, mine were the coated Pacesetters. It would be dumb to go through all that work for painted ones that flake and rust quickly. Like I said, I paid $520 for coated LT's and ORY. And Pacesetter doesn't make a catted Y for their LT1 longtubes.

**94z28l** · 11-09-2006, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by camarostripes96

ok well i will get some headers later but for now i have to fix my exhaust leaks for now, so does anyone recomend gutting my cats out, with my stock manifolds and y pipe? and also do yall think it will sound shitty or good to put a electric cut out on right before my muffler?

gains would be minimal there for the cost, the reason for a cutout usually is to bypass the cats and muffler, i'd save up for the headers but thats just me

Originally Posted by camarostripes96

what if i get the black ones and out header wraps on them, then u cant tell they rust and will reduce heat

that wrap can actually trap in moisture and promote rust and like you said you cant see it, the ceramic coating helps keep underhood heat under control, with in 25mins of a run at the track a couple months ago i could wrap my hand around the primary with out even slight discomfort but the rest of the motor was still hot as hell