Gears might be bad.

**2tuff4u** · 06-23-2011, 04:25 PM

So I was driving around yesterday, and I heard a subtle high pitched wine coming from the back. Took it right to the shop and they said my pinion seal is bad, and I was leaking fluid. Guy said he would replace the seal. and flush the system for $180.00. I asked if I might have damaged my gears. He didn't really think that was the case.
So I said if thats the case we can just swap them for some 373's. he said "sure! should only be like $1200.00 bucks." "WTF! I thought they were only like $500.00 or so". I call another shop, and they quoted me the same price. I live near LA, but that still seams crazy. The car only has 38k miles on it! but he did say the fluid has never been changed, and its a 96. What do you think?

**FORD RECOVERY EXPERT** · 06-23-2011, 04:51 PM

http://www.jegs.com/i/Richmond+Gear/...46-1K/10002/-1

Buy a Haynes manual, rent the appropriate tools from Vato Zone, and DIY.... Save them extra pesos for something else...

Remeber.... I dont care what ANYONE tells you.... The ONLY honest mechanic, is YOU.

**98maro** · 06-23-2011, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by FORD RECOVERY EXPERT

http://www.jegs.com/i/Richmond+Gear/...46-1K/10002/-1

Buy a Haynes manual, rent the appropriate tools from Vato Zone, and DIY.... Save them extra pesos for something else...

Remeber.... I dont care what ANYONE tells you.... The ONLY honest mechanic, is YOU.

you are right,,,
many of us, could do a better job than any mechanic, we just need the balls to do the big stuff..

**2tuff4u** · 06-23-2011, 04:59 PM

Your right. I do have a full shop and tools at the base. LOL! even a paint booth. Ill do oil, breaks, rotors, and small stuff. It just seams a little intimidating to rip in to the rear end. but if thats the case, I guess I should try. Thanks.

**98maro** · 06-23-2011, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by 2tuff4u

Your right. I do have a full shop and tools at the base. LOL! even a paint booth. Ill do oil, breaks, rotors, and small stuff. It just seams a little intimidating to rip in to the rear end. but if thats the case, I guess I should try. Thanks.

do some reaserch before you do it.. the only hard part i see, is recove the c clips to remove the axles... not an easy job, but im sure you can get it done

**FORD RECOVERY EXPERT** · 06-23-2011, 05:05 PM

Rear ends are easy.... Time consuming, but relatively easy. If you have the tools, and a computer, you can google anything you cant figure out on your own. If your car has TCS, Watch out for the brake bleed, I've read that you have to have Tech I or T-100 (CAMS) scanner to do it....

**FORD RECOVERY EXPERT** · 06-23-2011, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by 98maro

do some reaserch before you do it.. the only hard part i see, is recove the c clips to remove the axles... not an easy job, but im sure you can get it done

once you remove the center pin, the axles will slide inward, and the C-Clips will practically fall off.

**98maro** · 06-23-2011, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by FORD RECOVERY EXPERT

once you remove the center pin, the axles will slide inward, and the C-Clips will practically fall off.

yes.. to me removing the c clips is the hard part lol.. once they are off..just pull them off and its done,,
i seen all that when they replaced them on my car..looks like an easy job if you have the right tools

**2tuff4u** · 06-23-2011, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by 98maro

do some reaserch before you do it.. The only hard part i see, is recove the c clips to remove the axles... Not an easy job, but im sure you can get it done

thanks!

**2tuff4u** · 06-23-2011, 05:22 PM

OK, if thats the case ill take a couple days leave and get it done. thanks fr your help everyone. And thank you for the tips.

**FORD RECOVERY EXPERT** · 06-23-2011, 08:35 PM

http://www.jegs.com/i/Richmond+Gear/...22-1K/10002/-1

You should actually do this one.... And it's cheaper!!!

**2tuff4u** · 06-24-2011, 05:25 AM

Originally Posted by FORD RECOVERY EXPERT

http://www.jegs.com/i/Richmond+Gear/...22-1K/10002/-1

You should actually do this one.... And it's cheaper!!!

Now thats what im talkin about! Are 4:10's really the way to go for a DD?

**5.0THIS** · 06-24-2011, 08:10 AM

I'd just change the fluid and pinion seal for now, until you drive it some and can make a better determination for yourself on what gears you would need if you wanted to change. And that way also you will know if the gears even need to be replaced if the noise continues.

**2tuff4u** · 06-24-2011, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by 5.0THIS

I'd just change the fluid and pinion seal for now, until you drive it some and can make a better determination for yourself on what gears you would need if you wanted to change. And that way also you will know if the gears even need to be replaced if the noise continues.

TRUE. The guy is inspecting the rear end as we speak. Should know in a few hours.

**FORD RECOVERY EXPERT** · 06-24-2011, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by 2tuff4u

Now thats what im talkin about! Are 4:10's really the way to go for a DD?

4.10's are fine in a M6 car... you'd probably have a hard time noticing the 3.73's... stock is 3.42.... so effectively, you are increasing the driveshaft revolution by 1/4 turn for every wheel cycle... with the 4.10's, it's more like 3/4 turn....

Originally Posted by 2tuff4u

TRUE. The guy is inspecting the rear end as we speak. Should know in a few hours.

Let us know what you find out.

**2tuff4u** · 06-29-2011, 10:09 PM

sorry it took so long to reply. Im aircrew in the navy, so i'm gone at the drop of a dime. The rear end was fine. Had the seal replaced, and the system flushed. But he said three of the seals in the engine needed to be replaced as well. He showed it to me, and there was a lot of build up, but the car does not leak that much oil. He told me to replace those they had to remove the engine, or lift it up? Then he told me it would be 2000 bucks. So i'm thinking I might as well save up and get some bolt ons. Take a weeks or two of leave, and pull that thing out myself. I do have that whole shop on base at my disposal. I mean...If it needs to come out anyway. why not do some stuff to it. right?

**5.0THIS** · 06-30-2011, 08:25 AM

What seals are they saying have gone bad?

**FORD RECOVERY EXPERT** · 06-30-2011, 05:06 PM

^^this

**2tuff4u** · 07-01-2011, 11:41 AM

oil pan gaskets, valve cover gaskets, timing cover gasket.

**5.0THIS** · 07-01-2011, 04:45 PM

Valve covers are the easiest, try to do those yourself. A timing cover is more involved but still doable if you have a few hours. The oil pan is the hardest, but still not a nightmare. That isnt anywhere near 2000$ worth of work, even for a GM dealership.