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Thread: What is a Muscle car?
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05-18-2007, 04:59 AM #1
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What is a Muscle car?
What is the definition of a musle car? Is a trans am considered a sports car or a muscle car? and im talking about the newest ones. I believe its more than worthy to call a muscle car, but is the fact?
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05-18-2007, 05:45 AM #2
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neither, it's a pony car; but that term has been long extinct since the early 80's. I guess modern terms would call it a sports car, but technically a vette is a sports car [due to it's "frame-on" composition] so i guess we'll just call it good ole fashioned american muscle
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05-18-2007, 07:46 AM #3
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05-18-2007, 08:19 AM #4
When the Mustang and Camaro was first introduced Austin-Healey and MG's were considered sports cars and they were all owned by douche-bags who wore tweed jackets and smoked pipes.
Muscle or Pony cars had big, American iron V8's and weren't built for cornering as much as straight line power. Because that's what we (along with rock & roll, drive-in movies, drive-in restaurants, cute pony-tailed girls in short skirts, drag strips, etc) wanted. The only 'sports cars' that fit our requirements were Cobras or Corvettes.
So for me at least, I can't consider my Camaro a sports car. The term itself makes me remember the olden times.
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05-18-2007, 08:26 AM #5
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The olden times lol, I say its both when i think of sports cars i think of new age parts and new ideas. These motors and cars are unique in many ways but also a muscle car, cause thay have that v8 torque and ballsy tone. When i think of muscle i think of the smell of gasoline and tires burning off the rim, i know ive had my tires smoking hauling ass around corners.
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05-18-2007, 08:47 AM #6
a car that can leave 2 black trails of rubber hundreds of feet long
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05-18-2007, 08:50 AM #7
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Chevelles and Cudas would be something I would consider "muscle cars".
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05-18-2007, 08:59 AM #8
as technology developed....the mustangs and camaros began to look different, perform different...but they are still muscle cars IMO. the vette is a sports car. it can handle as well as speed.
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05-18-2007, 10:14 AM #9
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You said chevelles, the camaro had the same engine in some years i say muscle baby. there are muscle cars out there with far less power then our cars.
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05-18-2007, 10:26 AM #10
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the engine is only part of the equation...the platform is really what determines the result. does a 350 in a station wagon or a 240sx make them muscle cars?
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05-18-2007, 10:28 AM #11
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I have seen some muscle car wagons, my friend got a 93 caprice from his grandpa, it now makes 550 hp lol.
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05-18-2007, 03:06 PM #12
I think the definition of a muscle car has chanmged over the years.
in the 60-70's it was a car all about th 1/4 mile. Now there are still muscle cars but they are more overall performance cars.
I think a muscle car is an american CAR w/ a v8. (with some exceptions of course)
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05-18-2007, 03:42 PM #13
Repost this thread in 20 years and you will get similar answers. Our fathers prolly think muscle cars died 20 something years ago. But in 20 years WE will prolly think muscle cars died 20 something years ago. IMO yes F-Bodies are muscle cars, muscle cars of a new era. They have that same aggressive look as back in the days and they have that HP and TORQUE.
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05-18-2007, 03:43 PM #14
I feel that the newer F-Bodies are Muscle cars. i look at it like this a sports car to me is a exotic car that is made for status symbol. a Muscle car is all about power not so much status. also i belive price has a lot to do with it. i mean the Vette back in the late 60s and early 70s was ALOT more then a camaro, Firebird, Mustangs, Chevelles, Cuda, Challenger, Demon, Road Runner and so forth
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05-18-2007, 06:58 PM #15
Definition Wikipedia
"The term muscle car generally describes a rear wheel drive mid-size car with a large, powerful engine (typically, although not universally, a V8 engine) and special trim, intended for maximum torque on the street or in drag racing competition. It is distinguished from sports cars, which were customarily and coincidentally considered smaller, two-seat cars, or GTs, two-seat or 2+2 cars intended for high-speed touring and possibly road racing. High-performance full-size or compact cars are arguably excluded from this category, as are the breed of compact sports coupes inspired by the Ford Mustang, the "pony car". Another factor used in defining classic muscle cars are their age and country of origin. A classic muscle car is usually but not necessarily made in the US or Australia between 1964 and 1975.
An alternate definition is based on power-to-weight ratio, defining a muscle car as an automobile with (for example) fewer than 12 pounds per rated hp. Such definitions are inexact, thanks to a wide variation in curb weight depending on options and to the questionable nature of the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE) gross hp ratings in use before 1972, which were often deliberately overstated or underrated for various reasons."
Mustangs, Camaros and Firebirds are Pony Cars. Muscle Cars have a back set an adult could sit in.
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05-18-2007, 07:03 PM #16
sports car= 2 seats
muscle car= back seat
Corvette= some sort of cross dresser or transvestite or what ever.
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05-18-2007, 09:27 PM #172000pontiac6Guest
haha that actually isnt a bad way of thinking about it. When i think of a muscle car, all cars that come to mind do have 4 seats and sports car generally 2... and then theres the vette. ha
when i fist bought my v6 firebird my neighbor called it american muscle which i thought was a little funny considering i dont exactly consider it to be
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05-18-2007, 10:08 PM #18
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05-19-2007, 01:44 AM #19
so I take it there is a third category in this thread:
Muscle car
Sports car
Pony car
I think I will stick with my original post. F-Bods are modern era muscle cars.
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05-19-2007, 10:21 AM #20
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86 Buick Grand National- 02 WS6-M6 407 RWHP
I consider it to be a "modern muscle car"
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