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    Old school muscle or new tech.

    this highschool kid got a 69 chevelle from dad and claims it has 500 horse from a 454 (im working on what makes it jump to 500)(auto) but hes wanting to put money on a race and idk yet i got a 00 ws6 volant cai ported maf and tb and thats about it but i dout he knows how to drive it where as i got a bit more sense (the kid went and picked out a carb to put on his fuel injected F-150) this is why im douting it is 500 horse but lets hear it...

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    It's not hard to hit 500 from a 454. Them big blocks turn monster torque too. Most were low compression from the factory and swapping in higher compression pistons, better heads and bigger cam will do wonders for one and not cost that much. I love big blocks! The LSX motors are the first ones that can easily compete with them. If he didn't swap pistons you might take him, but be ready for a good race!

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    yea i know big blocks have alot of potential... my dad has a 70 GTO with a 455 with the ram air 4 auto with stall and a 12 rear. all factory, but b4 he sent it off to be restored we raced them and it was a toss up. cant wait to see it when its done. but im still workin on the setup in this kids car. nobody knows much...

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    if it really does have 500 hp idk but i would put my money on the ta. he could have more power but your car is more advanced and balanced. how much money you talkin and howd this all come about?

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    Quote Originally Posted by luciangage View Post
    i would put my money on the ta. he could have more power but your car is more advanced and balanced.

    OK, I love 4th gens, but I can't believe what I'm reading. For example: the 1970 LS6 was listed at 450 HP which is widely regarded as understated due to insurance and government pressures. It was probably 500 HP factory without electronic ignition. My SS is fast for a modern car, but my 70 RS/SS is in a completely different category. Modern technology is great, comfortable, etc. However, modern technology hasn't gotten us back to the moon or built a car under 70K that can hang with the stuff coming out almost 40 years ago.

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    your right about the power but this is how i see it and is only my opionion. what are the times on both cars. if he is running on 15 street tires hes probably got a traction problem. not to say the ta wont but i also asked the wager amount and how the bet came about. these are things we need to take into consideration. ive raced a balanced and blue printed 454 and lost my bumper to his front tire. dont know his horsepower or anything but i got him out of the hole and he pulled on me just enough to get me at the end there are many things to consider such as gears tires and unlimited other things but the car with the most hp doesnt win the car with the lowest time does. i say if the bet is not to high try it at least you know were you stand and what you need to do to win next time.

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    oh yeah and that 70 is wicked. love that car!

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    Quote Originally Posted by luciangage View Post
    oh yeah and that 70 is wicked. love that car!
    Thanks...
    I just know that I have a blast driving my LS1, but (at times) my BB Chev is scary. Once you have driven a built, high compression BB you don't forget the amazing feeling of power...or the price on the gas pump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBODYREDDEVIL View Post

    OK, I love 4th gens, but I can't believe what I'm reading. For example: the 1970 LS6 was listed at 450 HP which is widely regarded as understated due to insurance and government pressures. It was probably 500 HP factory without electronic ignition. My SS is fast for a modern car, but my 70 RS/SS is in a completely different category. Modern technology is great, comfortable, etc. However, modern technology hasn't gotten us back to the moon or built a car under 70K that can hang with the stuff coming out almost 40 years ago.

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    ive raced alot of those stock old school muscle cars with so called 450 and above h.p and have yet to lose.
    almost all those old school cars couldnt even break out of the 13s.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    ive raced alot of those stock old school muscle cars with so called 450 and above h.p and have yet to lose.
    almost all those old school cars couldnt even break out of the 13s.
    but you got to admit that their fast considering how heavy they are.

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    This all came about when i was at the pumps and he had just got it. Setting-- i live in a town of only like 5000 ppl but so far im the guy to beat the closest was an 455 trans am from somewhere in the 70s. he goes so when we gonna race and i said only if its for some money so he goes ok 50 bucks. i said im going to be richer after this just to get a rise outa him and he goes nope i got 500 horsepower. As for tires on his they are stock everyday tires so more than likely he will floor it and spin forever instead of hokking up....Ive been practicing my launches and got em figgured out bout as good as it gets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suede View Post
    This all came about when i was at the pumps and he had just got it. Setting-- i live in a town of only like 5000 ppl but so far im the guy to beat the closest was an 455 trans am from somewhere in the 70s. he goes so when we gonna race and i said only if its for some money so he goes ok 50 bucks. i said im going to be richer after this just to get a rise outa him and he goes nope i got 500 horsepower. As for tires on his they are stock everyday tires so more than likely he will floor it and spin forever instead of hokking up....Ive been practicing my launches and got em figgured out bout as good as it gets.
    well thats good for you, you can have a 1,000 horse power but if you cant hook up you aint got sh!t.

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    thats the way i look at it too we'll see when this goes down how it comes out. im thinkin it shoudl be good

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    Quote Originally Posted by nhraformula View Post
    ive raced alot of those stock old school muscle cars with so called 450 and above h.p and have yet to lose.
    almost all those old school cars couldnt even break out of the 13s.
    Wanna race my so called 450 horse Camaro?
    I run 11's.
    13's are legit...when tested by professionals. BTW, all but one magazine test put the LS1 deep in the 13's.

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    1 1997 Viper GTS 12.05@116 V10 450 six-speed 3.07 MM 8/97
    2 1966 427 Cobra 12.20@118 427 8V 425 four-speed 3.54 CC 11/65
    3 1990 ZR1 Corvette 12.80@113.8 350 LT5 375 six-speed 3.45 MT 4/90
    4 1966 L72 Corvette 12.80@112 427 L72 425 four-speed 3.36 CD 11/65
    5 1969 Roadrunner 12.91@111.8 440 Six Pack 390 four-speed 4.10 SS 6/69
    6 1997 Hurst/Firebird 12.99@103.11 350 350 automatic 3.42 MCR 4/5 97
    7 1970 Hemi Cuda 13.10@107.12 426 Hemi 425 four-speed 3.54 CC 11/69
    8 1992 Viper RT/10 13.10@108 488 V10 400 six-speed 3.07 CD 7/92
    9 1970 Chevelle SS454 13.12@107.01 454 LS6 450 four-speed 3.55 CC 11/69
    10 1969 Camaro 13.16@110.21 427 ZL1 430 four-speed 4.10 HC 6/69


    Not trying to stir things up but I have driven...I mean own the best performing f-bodies made.

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    do you have a video camera to tape it? so we can see his face hahaha

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    i should see if i can talk a buddy in to taping that would be sweet just to be able to rub it in later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suede View Post
    i should see if i can talk a buddy in to taping that would be sweet just to be able to rub it in later.
    good, ill be looking forward to watching it.

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    this kid sounds like an idiot considering him as the driver i dont think it would matter if his car had 800hp odds are against him, infact i think the more hp the car has the more it increases his chances of loosing

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    yea ill be sure to update everyone when this goes down but it might not be for a while beings i live in the country not in town on a ranch so i might not see the PITA for a while

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    hopefully the guy won't lose control and leave big bird mess all over the pavement

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