Fogs with no heads on

**laserredgt** · 07-27-2010, 08:01 PM

I know it can be done, ive seen a few pics of it...
i want my fogs and 1/4's on without having my heads on..
i turn on my parking lights (1/2 turn) and the heads pop up with no lights on...
i just want this look...

i have a messed up gear on the passenger side which i will fix thiscoming week...
thanks im new to the car so im just looking for some quick free mods

**peterlawl84** · 07-27-2010, 08:05 PM

Do you have any kind of aftermarket alarm on the vehicle? My car does what is pictured with the "1/2 turn" that just turns on the amber DRLs and Fogs (if the fog switch is flipped).
With my old alarm, they initially hooked it up so headlights pop up (it was weird), but I had that removed.

**laserredgt** · 07-27-2010, 08:19 PM

nope just the oem key fob...

**justinmc978** · 07-27-2010, 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by laserredgt

I know it can be done, ive seen a few pics of it...
i want my fogs and 1/4's on without having my heads on..
i turn on my parking lights (1/2 turn) and the heads pop up with no lights on...
i just want this look...

i have a messed up gear on the passenger side which i will fix thiscoming week...
thanks im new to the car so im just looking for some quick free mods

parking lights should always be on no matter what.

fix the headlight then it should work. strange things happen when they are broken

**laserredgt** · 07-27-2010, 08:41 PM

ordered the gear 5 mins ago...ill fix it and hope it works lol...
i will be back with results
thanks

**nhra-trans-am** · 07-27-2010, 09:48 PM

Yep that's a result of the stripped gear. Once you replace the gear the 1/2 turn (parking lights) and the headlights won't pop up.

**Too Fast** · 07-28-2010, 03:10 AM

Confirmed. Once your stripped gear is replaced, it will work normally. I think these cars are badass coming at you, when you have the "fog" lights on and the amber DRL, with the headlights off. One of the reasons I wanted a Trans Am, not a Camaro.

**LSCyaL8R** · 07-28-2010, 06:29 AM

if you wanted it to work today it's actually quite easy to fix the gear temporarily. Just open the affected side using the manual knob. then remove the black plastic trim around the headlamps. I actually removed the whole headlamp assembly but after doing it i think that this can be done with the headlamps still in the car.

Once you have that black trim off just remove the one nut that holds the headlight arm to the motor. once you remove the arm the headlight will swing free so be sure to prop it up with something. then all you need to do is turn the manual knob until the gear has turned 180 degrees. the rod the arm attaches to is keyed. it is flat on both sides. you just want the other side to face up. then you put the rod back on, replace the nut, replace the plastic trim and manually lower the light.... TADA!!! working lights no more grinding all is well.... for another 5-10 years maybe!

**laserredgt** · 07-28-2010, 06:38 AM

lol i tried that already but it was stripped going up on that side :/ ...thats why i ordered the gear but thanks for helpin me

**Schmalgar** · 07-28-2010, 07:42 AM

Originally Posted by Too Fast

Confirmed. Once your stripped gear is replaced, it will work normally. I think these cars are badass coming at you, when you have the "fog" lights on and the amber DRL, with the headlights off. One of the reasons I wanted a Trans Am, not a Camaro.

Ya ya agreed, I think these have one of the better looking running/fog light visuals...

And I also back the guys that are saing this is an issue with the busted headlamp motor/gear. I had that issue on a 98 TA as well, when the motor went bad it tried to pop up at the wrong time. Dunno really how a bad motor or gear would make it fire at the wrong setting of the dial, but it does.

**Lunatikgixxer** · 07-28-2010, 10:38 AM

hell ya they do. I have HID fogs and they look sick riding down the road with just them on. I love them. My passanger amber light is out when i have nothing on but when i flip it 1/2 for the fogs it comes on.. its weird i need a new harness

**FutureWS6** · 07-28-2010, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Too Fast

Confirmed. Once your stripped gear is replaced, it will work normally. I think these cars are badass coming at you, when you have the "fog" lights on and the amber DRL, with the headlights off. One of the reasons I wanted a Trans Am, not a Camaro.

that is the exact reason i switched from camaro to t/a

**goof4080** · 07-28-2010, 12:14 PM

both my DRL and my fogs are white, and signals are amber. It was like that when I got 'em. I guess that's abbynormal, I'll have to post a pic here to prove it while we wait for the OP's update.

**justinmc978** · 07-28-2010, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by goof4080

both my DRL and my fogs are white, and signals are amber. It was like that when I got 'em. I guess that's abbynormal, I'll have to post a pic here to prove it while we wait for the OP's update.

someone put clear bulbs in them instead of amber ones, it's not uncommon to see idoits driving around with one clear and one amber drl.

p.s. it is technically illegal to have white turn signals just so you know, and because the drls act as turn signal for the front you are breaking the law technically.

**StuntmanMike** · 07-28-2010, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by Too Fast

Confirmed. I think these cars are badass coming at you, when you have the "fog" lights on and the amber DRL, with the headlights off. One of the reasons I wanted a Trans Am, not a Camaro.

X100!!

i LOVE the look of my Formula with the DRL's/Fogs on. I actually think it looks better than the T/A, even though the TA's have huge fogs. I just like how the fogs on the Formula are pushed way out to the edge of the bumper. Makes the car look wider or something.

As soon as it starts to hit dusk I turn my Fogs on, and I wait till the last possible minute before turning the headlights on. I think these cars look goofy as hell with the headlights up, lol.

**Schmalgar** · 07-28-2010, 03:01 PM

Originally Posted by StuntmanMike

X100!!

i LOVE the look of my Formula with the DRL's/Fogs on. I actually think it looks better than the T/A, even though the TA's have huge fogs. I just like how the fogs on the Formula are pushed way out to the edge of the bumper. Makes the car look wider or something.

They're also much more functional on the Formula since the real point of fog lamps is to provide extra illumination down on the road edge and centerlines in the fog. The TA center placement looks cool but doesn't put as much light on the edges...

**justinmc978** · 07-28-2010, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by StuntmanMike

...even though the TA's have huge fogs....

t/a and formula fogs are the exact same size

**Schmalgar** · 07-28-2010, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by justinmc978

t/a and formula fogs are the exact same size

Are they? I thought they were different as well. Maybe it's the location next to the DRL/blinkers or that they are not inset as deeply on the Formy that makes em look smaller?

**justinmc978** · 07-28-2010, 09:32 PM

Originally Posted by Schmalgar

Are they? I thought they were different as well. Maybe it's the location next to the DRL/blinkers or that they are not inset as deeply on the Formy that makes em look smaller?

they are the same part/assembly and are interchangable IIRC