Fav color on WS6 non aniversary.

**jwindbigler** · 03-09-2007, 09:16 PM

Sorry, I couldnt figure out how to edit the last one...so here is another one.

**jwindbigler** · 03-09-2007, 09:18 PM

Sorry I had to do this again, just bare with me

**Secret Formula** · 03-09-2007, 09:19 PM

I dont wanna vote for silver/gold. I want Gold dammit!

**jwindbigler** · 03-09-2007, 09:20 PM

Well I had to make space for the other!!

**jwindbigler** · 03-09-2007, 09:20 PM

You can say that you like gold then later in the thread. How about that??

**Secret Formula** · 03-09-2007, 09:28 PM

Im jealous of your mods. I wish I had money, and a better understanding of choosing the right products. 386 HP for (what seems like) under $2,000? (performance mod's. Not wheels, tires, susp,.etc...)

**jwindbigler** · 03-09-2007, 09:30 PM

Yeah...well if you go the right rout. I did everything else first. Intake manifold...K&N intake filter. Full exhaust. The power is in the heads and cam. Buy a cam and a set of patriot heads. You WILL be over 400RWHP and TQ after the computer tune. I still havent put heads on mine yet. But I have done pretty much everything else.

**Secret Formula** · 03-09-2007, 09:35 PM

What cam did you get? If you could do it again, would you have gotten a head/cam combo at the same time?

**jwindbigler** · 03-09-2007, 09:39 PM

Yeah...what I would do...if I could go back, is go to compcams.com. They have a "what cam is right for you" type thing there. I would get a cam with about a .600 lift and Patriot Stage 3 heads. That will set anything else that you put on there off. With that radical of a cam, you should be putting over 400HP to the rear wheels. When I get them, I would order them from WS6store.com. The heads are 1300 and cam is 355. Add about 200 for misc stuff. Head bolts, gaskets, that sort of thing. I would also replace my roller lifters ($200) and pushrods while I am doing it too ($200). He can work with you on the price. I have ordered almost $6K worth in stuff from this guy, and he hasnt let me down. Thats what I would do.

**Secret Formula** · 03-09-2007, 09:49 PM

Well I dont wana spend more than 6K on a head/cam setup at the same time. So I'll probably just get a cam first.
I still gotta do all that exhaust/breathing crap first.

**jwindbigler** · 03-09-2007, 09:52 PM

Yeah but you wont need that at first. Go with a head and cam swap. That will be the best bang for your buck. Dont focus on intake and exhaust. You want to go fast for less. Thats how you do it. Heads and cam on a stock exhaust and a K&N filter, plus all of the FREE mods at installuniversity.com. You will be sitting pretty fast, and it will sound like it has an exhaust on it.

**jwindbigler** · 03-09-2007, 09:53 PM

Hell you already have the lid. So focus on the internals. Get that all done. That way you can spin 7000RPM with no problem. They sound great when the spin up that high.

**Secret Formula** · 03-09-2007, 09:55 PM

So intake manifold, headers and exhaust, is somthing I can do after cam/heads? not somthing I NEED to do before cam/head?

**jwindbigler** · 03-09-2007, 09:57 PM

Nope. The stock ones will breath OK. We arent dealing with 1000HP engines where the intake manifold headers are the limiting factors. Besides, if it is limiting, when you get your intake manifold/headers. It will just make it all that much better. For the $$ heads/cam.

**Secret Formula** · 03-09-2007, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by jwindbigler

Nope. The stock ones will breath OK. We arent dealing with 1000HP engines where the intake manifold headers are the limiting factors. Besides, if it is limiting, when you get your intake manifold/headers. It will just make it all that much better. For the $$ heads/cam.

Nice, I always knew that was the case, but everyone here is like "bla bla bla exhaust, intake..." then they say after you get that done, you can concentrate on internals. But like you're saying, I always thought, "well, im not building a 1000 hp car"

**jwindbigler** · 03-09-2007, 10:06 PM

Yup, you build and engine from the inside out. It took me 2 cars and a bunch of posing out to figure that one out. Getting an average cam...222/224, with some little stuff helped me go from 315RWHP to 386RWHP.

**Secret Formula** · 03-09-2007, 10:12 PM

Yeah, 386hp is awesome. I would love to have that, and know that if later on I did somthing like a twin turbo setup, that id be easily be pushing around 500hp. (plus maybe a 75 shot nitrous for fun).

**jwindbigler** · 03-09-2007, 10:14 PM

Twin turbo setup would put you nearly 600RWHP with heads and a cam. You will need a new rear end. Forged pistons, beefed up transmission, and maybe a bigger driveshaft. 500RWHP N/A is probably where I am going to stop.

**Secret Formula** · 03-09-2007, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by jwindbigler

Twin turbo setup would put you nearly 600RWHP with heads and a cam. You will need a new rear end. Forged pistons, beefed up transmission, and maybe a bigger driveshaft. 500RWHP N/A is probably where I am going to stop.

Yeah 450-500hp seems like more than enough for me on any street car.
Would supercharging allow me to make close to just over 400hp after heads/cams without replacing pistons, rearend, driveshaft, tranny?