Stock maro what should i get 1st to increase hp

**badboy10** · 12-20-2009, 08:35 AM

i got an 02 ss just got flows and an hp tuning, what do u all suggest for me to go first with to increase some horsepower

**tatertot91** · 12-20-2009, 10:03 AM

Lid, Headers and an ORY (depending on emissions laws in your state)

**F-my-body** · 12-20-2009, 10:03 AM

i have a bone stock camaro also , subscribed

**tatertot91** · 12-20-2009, 10:11 AM

Both of you already have the LS6 intake from the factory
Like i already stated get a lid, keep the stock maf, p&p your throttle body, Headers and exhaust

...and a tune by frost

**badboy10** · 12-20-2009, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by tatertot91

Both of you already have the LS6 intake from the factory
Like i already stated get a lid, keep the stock maf, p&p your throttle body, Headers and exhaust

...and a tune by frost

alright thx for the suggestions...
u got any idea about how much green itll take
and who gives a crap bout state emission laws

**tatertot91** · 12-20-2009, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by badboy10

alright thx for the suggestions...
u got any idea about how much green itll take
and who gives a crap bout state emission laws

Whats your budget
Lid is around $100
headers depends on your budget
ebay ones start at around 175 to better brand up closer to 1k

Depending on how handy you are you can port and polish your TB for free

**F-my-body** · 12-20-2009, 02:57 PM

( noob here )

what do you mean by a lid?

and how much much could you get from P&P your TB?

**zmg00camaross** · 12-20-2009, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by F-my-body

( noob here )

what do you mean by a lid?

and how much much could you get from P&P your TB?

The lid is what house the air filter. The factory one has baffles that causes a restriction. when replace with aftermarket it gains a some hp. And for the throttle body you dont get alot of hp from it but is worth throttle response and a little power maybe a little more since you have a nice factory intake manifold.

**F-my-body** · 12-20-2009, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by zmg00camaross

The lid is what house the air filter. The factory one has baffles that causes a restriction. when replace with aftermarket it gains a some hp. And for the throttle body you dont get alot of hp from it but is worth throttle response and a little power maybe a little more since you have a nice factory intake manifold.

hmmm you would tihnky chevy would have thought to of not put the baffles in the way.is there any reason why they did that and what if you just cut them off or shave them down?i mean im not sure what they look like but maybe some handy work can do it?

**tatertot91** · 12-20-2009, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by F-my-body

hmmm you would tihnky chevy would have thought to of not put the baffles in the way.is there any reason why they did that and what if you just cut them off or shave them down?i mean im not sure what they look like but maybe some handy work can do it?

The stock one also has that second unit to keep noise down. Its also a restriction, an SLP lid is the way to go, if your cheap snap the tabs off the inside of the stock one and sand it smooth, may net you 2hp

**4thGenTA** · 12-20-2009, 04:23 PM

yeah you can get a dremel tool and some sand paper, then cut out the baffles in the air intake lid, also port and polish your throttle body and maf, and do a tune up on all your oils and change your plugs and wires.

**F-my-body** · 12-20-2009, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by 4thGenTA

yeah you can get a dremel tool and some sand paper, then cut out the baffles in the air intake lid, also port and polish your throttle body and maf, and do a tune up on all your oils and change your plugs and wires.

and after alll that id probably get wha? 5horses?hahah and how much is a lid and how exactly do you port and polish a TB

**tatertot91** · 12-20-2009, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by F-my-body

and after alll that id probably get wha? 5horses?hahah and how much is a lid and how exactly do you port and polish a TB

If you look at the stock TB, the opening gets smaller and then opens up a little towards the blade, what you can do is use a dremel and remove this hump which goes around the TB. You can go to finer and finer bits to get the finish smooth again. Make sure not to grind down the area where blade sits because you may end up with idle issues.

have to be careful so not to set the SES light on this one but you can also do this
http://www.installuniversity.com/ins..._bump_stop.htm

**F-my-body** · 12-20-2009, 07:06 PM

so your not actually making the TB bigger your making the little thing that turns sideways thinner?

**4thGenTA** · 12-20-2009, 07:07 PM

you probably get 5-10hp, but will have a lot better throttle response.

**tatertot91** · 12-20-2009, 07:24 PM

Originally Posted by F-my-body

so your not actually making the TB bigger your making the little thing that turns sideways thinner?

No, you also grind down the inside of the throttle body to make the opening bigger

Best way i can explain it, stock the TB is like a funnel, it goes from big to smaller to a little bigger where the blade is, then out back
Porting it get rid of the hump inside where the opening gets smaller than the actual blade itself. You want a smooth transition from the opening to the blade to give the throttle body a smooth funnel shape
compare yours to this one, or buy it if you have the cash
if you actually look at yours you will see what i mean

**Z28Thunder** · 12-20-2009, 08:10 PM

SFC's.... Sub Frame Connectors.. Do that before you do anything else.. Then think about perfomance mods..

**tatertot91** · 12-20-2009, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Z28Thunder

SFC's.... Sub Frame Connectors.. Do that before you do anything else.. Then think about perfomance mods..

from the ground up

**F-my-body** · 12-20-2009, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Z28Thunder

SFC's.... Sub Frame Connectors.. Do that before you do anything else.. Then think about perfomance mods..

ohhh whats that?

and thank for the help! but one more how much would a new lid be and would it be easier to just get a enw one or sand down the baffles?

**35th-ANV-SS** · 12-20-2009, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by F-my-body

ohhh whats that?

and thank for the help! but one more how much would a new lid be and would it be easier to just get a enw one or sand down the baffles?

New lid is about 100.