Headers/Dual Exhaust

**GungHoPopsicle** · 04-10-2007, 01:22 PM

I plan on getting both in the not-too-distant future, so I'd like to hear some recommendations. I'm really curious about the true dual exhaust, because I don't know of any manufacturers for the 93-02 Camaros and I'd absolutely love to have a super-beefy sound to rival those 'Stangs.

**Doom** · 04-10-2007, 01:25 PM

Texas speed makes a true dual system.

**jwitt2** · 04-10-2007, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by Doom

Texas speed makes a true dual system.

+1 here.... they make great stuff...

I like the flp lt's, and the dynatech's....third would be pacesetter (sp)

**02bluebird** · 04-10-2007, 02:50 PM

if you are keeping the car go with stainless steel. you'll be wasting your money if you buy anything different.

**Ridinfilthy** · 04-10-2007, 05:34 PM

buy what you can afford, stainless will last longer but you will not need to replace coated headers for a very long time so that is why i bought coated pacesetters lt, they are nice and will be on the car when it is sold many years from now!!!! by the way thanks for the clears

**AKIRA** · 04-10-2007, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Doom

Texas speed makes a true dual system.

But there has to be a lot of fabrication to get them to fit right. The reference to that statement is on this forum. Lot of people have to fuck with it to get rid of rattles and to get it to hang right.

**mrr23** · 04-10-2007, 06:08 PM

i have the bassani tru-duals on both cars. runs all the way out the back

wife's car has the bassani headers and metallicats

mine has dynatech headers

**Ridinfilthy** · 04-10-2007, 07:17 PM

my pacesetters bolt right up and dont leak,rub or anything

**GungHoPopsicle** · 04-13-2007, 05:33 AM

I'll probably end up going with the SLP headers and Bassani exhaust. I've heard great things about both.

Where do I find the Bassani exhaust, though? They don't have it advertised on their website and I can't find anything on eBay.

**99blueZ** · 04-17-2007, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by GungHoPopsicle

I'll probably end up going with the SLP headers and Bassani exhaust. I've heard great things about both.

Where do I find the Bassani exhaust, though? They don't have it advertised on their website and I can't find anything on eBay.

i wouldn't go with the SLP headers. They have the worst ground clearance out of any brand. For the same price get kooks, qtp, dynatech, or american racing. All about the same price, stainless, and better clearance than the SLP ones.

**67CamaroRSSS** · 04-17-2007, 12:06 PM

+1 for QTP stainless. Absolutly no fitment or ground clearance issues with the set on my car.

**GungHoPopsicle** · 04-17-2007, 04:01 PM

Alright, I'll take that into consideration about the SLP headers.

But what about the Bassani exhaust? Anybody know where I can find it?

**mrr23** · 04-17-2007, 08:46 PM

www.vincihighperformance.com it's where i got both of mine.

**GungHoPopsicle** · 04-20-2007, 11:26 AM

The picture of the Bassani exhaust on Vinci's site looks like a one-muffler system. I thought true-dual meant two mufflers, hence the name?

**67CamaroRSSS** · 04-20-2007, 12:57 PM

These cars (4th gen F-bodies) were never meant to have a "True Dual" exhaust system. There are no provisions under the car for the location of mufflers other than in the transverse location. There isn't even a place to put a pipe on the drivers side over the axle.

On the other hand there are a few ways around this:

1- Run dual exhaust and dump it in front of the axle;

2 - Run 2 pipes over the right side of the axle;

3 - Run dual exhaust under the axle out to the back.

In either case you will have to run either a "bullet" or some other small case type muffler (i.e., 5" x 8" Magnaflow). I'm not sure about the bullet, but I know for sure that with any other muffler you will have to "massage" the underbody of the car in the location of the rear seats for ground clearance (think sledge hammer).

**Silver Streak** · 04-20-2007, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by AKIRA

But there has to be a lot of fabrication to get them to fit right. The reference to that statement is on this forum. Lot of people have to fuck with it to get rid of rattles and to get it to hang right.

I didn't have to fab a thing... bolted right up.. only thing I had to do was drill 2 small holes in the back of the rear seats to hang the mufflers... once under there.. headers and exhaust only took about 2 hours on stands. It was getting the old stuff off that was the pain.. lol.

**mrr23** · 04-20-2007, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by GungHoPopsicle

The picture of the Bassani exhaust on Vinci's site looks like a one-muffler system. I thought true-dual meant two mufflers, hence the name?

true duals came about in the mid 80s when GM went to a single exhaust to the muffler. then it split out into two pipes to 'simulate' the dual look. hell. my 79 z28 had a dual y system. had a y-pipe, then y'ed back out into two mufflers and over the axle. so, with your definition, would my 79 z28 be true duals?? it has two mufflers.

a honest to goodness 'true' dual system would have it where neither side ever meets up. single pipe from each side into their own muffler, then out to wherever. or even no muffler. what would a two pipe system be called if it didn't have any mufflers??
with the intervention of a x or h-pipe, the system joins together and mixes. with this, you lose the 'true' dual system.

a dual system is just two pipes running from the front to the back. the bassani muffler is a dual in/out design. still, two pipes from front to back with a x-pipe. whether you run none, one, two, or four mufflers, it's still considered a tru-dual system, with todays definition.

**GungHoPopsicle** · 04-26-2007, 04:02 AM

Originally Posted by mrr23

true duals came about in the mid 80s when GM went to a single exhaust to the muffler. then it split out into two pipes to 'simulate' the dual look. hell. my 79 z28 had a dual y system. had a y-pipe, then y'ed back out into two mufflers and over the axle. so, with your definition, would my 79 z28 be true duals?? it has two mufflers.

a honest to goodness 'true' dual system would have it where neither side ever meets up. single pipe from each side into their own muffler, then out to wherever. or even no muffler. what would a two pipe system be called if it didn't have any mufflers??
with the intervention of a x or h-pipe, the system joins together and mixes. with this, you lose the 'true' dual system.

a dual system is just two pipes running from the front to the back. the bassani muffler is a dual in/out design. still, two pipes from front to back with a x-pipe. whether you run none, one, two, or four mufflers, it's still considered a tru-dual system, with todays definition.

I assumed it was a given that when I said two mufflers I meant they'd be running parallel, connected to their own individual conduits as opposed to meeting to a single muffler.

Like you, I don't consider it to be an actual "true dual system" because of the x or h-pipes, so I guess I'm not too terribly interested. Seems difficult because of the molding of the underside, anyway, so I just won't worry about it.

**CoryF** · 05-03-2007, 09:54 AM

What does everyone think about the JetHot headers? They come coated with their heat reduction coating and are not WAY over priced...

**SSwt00SS** · 05-03-2007, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by GungHoPopsicle

I'll probably end up going with the SLP headers and Bassani exhaust. I've heard great things about both.

Where do I find the Bassani exhaust, though? They don't have it advertised on their website and I can't find anything on eBay.

No SLP headers!!!