Can't break tires loose

**alucarusz28** · 06-03-2010, 10:26 AM

Hey guys. I need some expertise. I bought a 2000 camaro two weeks ago and it already had mti air lid, long tube headers, and full exhaust with no cats. As far as I can tell thats it. Its got factory 3.23's in. After cleaning the maf and throttle body and doing a nice tune up I still can't break the tires loose. On my bro's camaro those things will break loose really easy and he's got a 01 with 9.5 tires. I got 8.5's on mine and I still can't break them loose. The funny thing is we did a fifty roll after I did the tune up and I actually beat him some how. (Pretty sure it was the gears). Off the line I'm sure he'd take me. All the mods they did are really good quality but I think they might have done a hand held tune though. Anyone have some input?

**Knight** · 06-03-2010, 10:29 AM

Hand held tune could be the culprit, as they are known to be bad for our cars. Are you an A4 or M6? What tires are you running?

**devildogws6** · 06-03-2010, 11:03 AM

Traction control?

**lancesT/A** · 06-03-2010, 12:21 PM

prolly either the tcs or if you dont have a switch for it then you have tms (torque management system) or something like that

**samuraidonkey** · 06-03-2010, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by devildogws6

Traction control?

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**slimss** · 06-03-2010, 12:42 PM

Drive it through a puddle of water. Then nail it. That should do it. Sounds like you have an a4 with those gears. Ive got an 02 ss with the a4 and it wont break the tire loose. Unless i power brake it.

**JunkyardZ** · 06-03-2010, 01:55 PM

I ditched the torque management on mine and it helps, I guess, if spinning the tires is the goal but usually the goal is to not spin. Seems like sometimes mine will light em up and sometimes it hooks and launches with little to no spin.

**F55c6** · 06-03-2010, 03:05 PM

The traction contol turned on. I know this sound elementary, but i remember test driving a Z and that was the reason I could not spin the tires. The salesman later told me about the switch.

**Glue Maker** · 06-03-2010, 03:22 PM

they all have Torque Managment unless its been tuned out, but yea check the Trac Control because even mine with 2.73 from a stop with the TC off will lite them up

**lancesT/A** · 06-03-2010, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by Glue Maker

they all have Torque Managment unless its been tuned out, but yea check the Trac Control because even mine with 2.73 from a stop with the TC off will lite them up

ya they all have tms but not all have a tcs switch which blows cuz then u have to have the tms tuned out

**bsteff** · 06-03-2010, 07:27 PM

Or just buy the cheper tires...mine lights them even when I don't want to....

**MNZ28** · 06-03-2010, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by alucarusz28

Hey guys. I need some expertise. I bought a 2000 camaro two weeks ago and it already had mti air lid, long tube headers, and full exhaust with no cats. As far as I can tell thats it. Its got factory 3.23's in. After cleaning the maf and throttle body and doing a nice tune up I still can't break the tires loose. On my bro's camaro those things will break loose really easy and he's got a 01 with 9.5 tires. I got 8.5's on mine and I still can't break them loose. The funny thing is we did a fifty roll after I did the tune up and I actually beat him some how. (Pretty sure it was the gears). Off the line I'm sure he'd take me. All the mods they did are really good quality but I think they might have done a hand held tune though. Anyone have some input?

WHOA. Beat me what the fuck is goin on here. You jumped fucker. From a dig I will own you. anyways the asr is off and the car has a full tune up, so with those mods it should be able to easily break stock size tires loose. But basically he cant even chirp em. It still does seem slightly under powered to my 01, I just cant pin point it. The car has not been dynoed or mail order tuned, yet I suspect it has had a handheld messed with it because I cannot see any other reason for this problem. The car runs good now, but mine has wider tires and basically the same mods and I can still spin the fuckers loose no problem.

**Y2KPewterSS** · 06-03-2010, 08:20 PM

Originally Posted by MNZ28

WHOA. Beat me what the fuck is goin on here. You jumped fucker. From a dig I will own you. anyways the asr is off and the car has a full tune up, so with those mods it should be able to easily break stock size tires loose. But basically he cant even chirp em. It still does seem slightly under powered to my 01, I just cant pin point it. The car has not been dynoed or mail order tuned, yet I suspect it has had a handheld messed with it because I cannot see any other reason for this problem. The car runs good now, but mine has wider tires and basically the same mods and I can still spin the fuckers loose no problem.

How about laying off the f word in the tech/vehicle areas

**alucarusz28** · 06-03-2010, 08:31 PM

Haha. No the trac control isn't on because I turn it off every time I start it up. My guess is it has to be the tune. The tires are 8.5's in the back so they should be breaking loose like nothing. Oh and ya I'm and A4. MNZ28 is my bro. No its not the torque management either. I just don't get why even with those mods it should be breaking them loose. It's really fast and it definitely books, but somethings not right and i don't think its something simple. My only guess is something in the tune unless someone can think of anything that is on the ls1's that are pre-2001 maybe?

**alucarusz28** · 06-03-2010, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by slimss

Drive it through a puddle of water. Then nail it. That should do it. Sounds like you have an a4 with those gears. Ive got an 02 ss with the a4 and it wont break the tire loose. Unless i power brake it.

Hahahaha!!! Dude! Thats genius!! Maybe I should just bring a bucket of water with me every where I go and when I wanna show off I'll be like hey guys hold up. And splash it by my back wheels and floor it!! Then all the girls will be like dammmmnnn!! Thats hot. Hahahaha!! Problem solved. Thanks slim. Hhaha.

**ChvyCruzen** · 06-04-2010, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by alucarusz28

Hahahaha!!! Dude! Thats genius!! Maybe I should just bring a bucket of water with me every where I go and when I wanna show off I'll be like hey guys hold up. And splash it by my back wheels and floor it!! Then all the girls will be like dammmmnnn!! Thats hot. Hahahaha!! Problem solved. Thanks slim. Hhaha.

Add bleach for dramatic smoke effect!!

**Smittro** · 06-04-2010, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by alucarusz28

Haha. No the trac control isn't on because I turn it off every time I start it up. My guess is it has to be the tune. The tires are 8.5's in the back so they should be breaking loose like nothing. Oh and ya I'm and A4. MNZ28 is my bro. No its not the torque management either. I just don't get why even with those mods it should be breaking them loose. It's really fast and it definitely books, but somethings not right and i don't think its something simple. My only guess is something in the tune unless someone can think of anything that is on the ls1's that are pre-2001 maybe?

hmmm What's the mileage on her? Even my 3800-II could cut them loose (ASR on) shortly before it would cut out..

That was before the stickies (NOT drag tires) tho.. Now I can't even cut them loose in a circle with it off.. Tires are just too sticky to spin..

**shady milkman** · 06-04-2010, 05:44 AM

does the car bog ? or does it just not spin the tires? are the tires new ? what type of tires ?

is there any difference in launching etc with the asr on or off..i know people have modded the asr to be off by default ...for all we know you might be turning it on

**Smittro** · 06-04-2010, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

does the car bog ? or does it just not spin the tires? are the tires new ? what type of tires ?

is there any difference in launching etc with the asr on or off..i know people have modded the asr to be off by default ...for all we know you might be turning it on

Yeah somethins' not adding up.. He should be able to smoke them easily..imho

**alucarusz28** · 06-04-2010, 08:55 AM

Originally Posted by shady milkman

does the car bog ? or does it just not spin the tires? are the tires new ? what type of tires ?

is there any difference in launching etc with the asr on or off..i know people have modded the asr to be off by default ...for all we know you might be turning it on

No it doesn't bog. When I hit it, it definitely goes. It just basically hooks up and goes. The tires on the back are Dayton ZR P245/50ZR16 exactly. The tires aren't new, but they have a lot of tread left.