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    Camaro HPE650 vs Mustang SuperSnake vs Challenger


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    Thats so bad ass!!! put some sticky tires on the supersnake tho eeeaak


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    3 nice cars. As much as i talk smack about everything not Chevy, these cars are all American at the end of the day. However, if i bought that Challenger and was told i got 700+ HP and dyno'ed it i would be PISSED!

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    Hmm 612 RWHP for a 650 HP car and 635 RWHP for a 750 HP car. One overrated one underrated. I'd like to see what the weight of the added stuff to the HPE car is that stocker was in the high 3800 so it's gotta be as much or more than the 4095 lb super snake. Shows what power under the curve will do for you though. Even though the super snake was traction limited it still didn't trap as high as the HPE.

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    well they did bring the right challenger, they didnt say what this one was rated at. the one they were supposed to bring was 750, but it was a roots mount 7.2L, the one in the video is a centrifugal 6.2L.

    speaking of, even though its weaker, that challenger sounded raunchy as hell

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    oh and many of you will agree with me that a lot of styling for the mustang is jacked from the camaro concept, the one in transformers. but now look at those damn wheels, recognize them?

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    that camaro sounds orgasmic

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    still wouldnt buy any of them even if i had the money,

    procharged ls7 t/a FTW
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    Quote Originally Posted by justinmc978 View Post
    still wouldnt buy any of them even if i had the money,

    procharged ls7 t/a FTW

    I feel you, Im not a T/A guy but I love Gen 4 camaros. If I had the money to get a new car it would be another 2002

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    I had to jump over to Youtube where this video is hosted to see what those weak ford guys would be crying about. I was getting flash backs to when motor trend did the 2010 SS vs 2010 GT and the Camaro kick the GT's butt. Anyways I went over to YouTube and one ford guy had posted that it was not fair cause the Super Snake did not have slicks on the back. Why can they not just deal with the fact that ford always under powers all there cars?

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    Quote Originally Posted by supercopone View Post
    I had to jump over to Youtube where this video is hosted to see what those weak ford guys would be crying about. I was getting flash backs to when motor trend did the 2010 SS vs 2010 GT and the Camaro kick the GT's butt. Anyways I went over to YouTube and one ford guy had posted that it was not fair cause the Super Snake did not have slicks on the back. Why can they not just deal with the fact that ford always under powers all there cars?
    Being as im a diehard Chevy fan ill allways defend them. But to be honest, the super snake is nice looking. To anyone complaining that the Super Snake was cheated dident really get the jist of the comparing. They took 3 cars, moded by 3 different companies and compared them the way the company gave the cars to them. If you wanna retry the test with different tires then what shelby put on them then lets be fair and put the same ones on the other 2 cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FullBlack4thGen View Post
    Being as im a diehard Chevy fan ill allways defend them. But to be honest, the super snake is nice looking. To anyone complaining that the Super Snake was cheated dident really get the jist of the comparing. They took 3 cars, moded by 3 different companies and compared them the way the company gave the cars to them. If you wanna retry the test with different tires then what shelby put on them then lets be fair and put the same ones on the other 2 cars.
    Yes my best friend just got a 2010 Gt its that real light blue color, Its fast and clean but my 2002 b4c with no mods I killed him in a race, it was close till the end. I say close we were neck and neck we went about a half mile at the end I put a few on him. But at the end of the day its a nice car just under powerd.

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    ive driven on of the SRT 8 challengers, and it feels like a heavy family car with a big engine. i thought it was a sloppy driving car, my TA had a lot less body roll in corners. all in all...not impressed!

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    With Ford'a live axle, it'll never be able to put the power (no matter how much) to the ground. Each magazine has had the same prob with the factory Shelby's that put out 540hp.
    A regular Vette will beat it everytime with 436hp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Hyde View Post
    With Ford'a live axle, it'll never be able to put the power (no matter how much) to the ground. Each magazine has had the same prob with the factory Shelby's that put out 540hp.
    A regular Vette will beat it everytime with 436hp.
    They just did a comparative article in car and driver i believe. It was supposed to be for ultimate American Car or something. The Shelby cost less, had more HP and still lost to the Corvette GS. Ill post more info if anyone cares, if you don't i wont look for the magazine, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FullBlack4thGen View Post
    They just did a comparative article in car and driver i believe. It was supposed to be for ultimate American Car or something. The Shelby cost less, had more HP and still lost to the Corvette GS. Ill post more info if anyone cares, if you don't i wont look for the magazine, lol.
    I have that mag, and it was the one I was actually referring to. Great write-up and it's always nice to see a Ford lose.
    In the article it writes that how are they going to explain the lose to the big Ford Boss. It goes on to mention that if or when Ford decides to finally spend some money on the Mustang and put in an IRS, then they can expect the car to hook up.
    I'm paraphraising a bit here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FullBlack4thGen View Post
    Being as im a diehard Chevy fan ill allways defend them. But to be honest, the super snake is nice looking. To anyone complaining that the Super Snake was cheated dident really get the jist of the comparing. They took 3 cars, moded by 3 different companies and compared them the way the company gave the cars to them. If you wanna retry the test with different tires then what shelby put on them then lets be fair and put the same ones on the other 2 cars.
    I'm a diehard chevy fan as well and I will admit that the stang looked nice. My thing is, they knew the kind of power it was making and put the wrong tires on..who's fault is that? Put slicks on both of them and I'm certain the camaro will overtake it again in the 1/4 mile based on the trap speeds. Like somene else mentioned, overall for the price tags associated w/ these cars they're not providing that impressive of a level of performance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johns00Z28 View Post
    I'm a diehard chevy fan as well and I will admit that the stang looked nice. My thing is, they knew the kind of power it was making and put the wrong tires on..who's fault is that? Put slicks on both of them and I'm certain the camaro will overtake it again in the 1/4 mile based on the trap speeds. Like somene else mentioned, overall for the price tags associated w/ these cars they're not providing that impressive of a level of performance.


    So true....nuff said

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